https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81841

Joel Schopp <joel.sch...@amd.com> changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Joel Schopp <joel.sch...@amd.com> ---
(In reply to Alex Williamson from comment #9)
> (In reply to Marti Raudsepp from comment #8)
> > (In reply to Alex Williamson from comment #7)
> > > > There are some proposed workarounds on the web
> > > None of these remotely address the issue.
> > 
> > I see. This page claims so: 
> > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/hostdev_passthrough
> 
> Sorry, it's wrong.
> 
> > > there are quirks for the following AMD southbridge components
> > 
> > Nope, mine are 1022:780b, 1022:780c, 1022:780d, 1022:780e, 1022:780f,
> > 1022:7809
> > 
> > > If your bridge does not match these, then AMD will need to confirm whether
> > > isolation is provided between your devices.
> > 
> > How would I go about confirming that? What are the chances that they care,
> > and provide accurate information to a random person?


Are you suggesting we'd provide innacurate information to a random person?


> 
> AMD would need to confirm it.  IOMMU groups are based on hardware advertised
> isolation via the PCIe ACS capability.  Without this, or a device specific
> quirk to take its place, IOMMU groups must assume that peer-to-peer between
> functions of a multi-function device is possible and therefore that the
> devices are not isolated.  Chances are that this new chipset in your system
> is taking the exact same ASICs that were deemed not to do peer-to-peer on
> previous chipsets, but we need that confirmation from AMD.  Alex Deucher
> (see MAINTAINERS) may have contacts available that can make that statement.

I don't have an answer for you offhand.  Let me do some digging and get you an
answer.

> 
> > > There is an ACS override patch
> > 
> > I already ran across it...
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1113399
> > Would I be any worse off using this, compared to the old kvm pci-assign
> > method?
> 
> I think the path forward is to get confirmation from AMD that these function
> are isolated from each other and add quirks to the kernel.  Then you won't
> have the device dependencies in vfio-pci.  The override patch allows you to
> do that with just a kernel boot parameter.  There's no gurantee that
> pci-assign will ever be fixed since it's being phased out.

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