Am 10.11.2014 um 22:07 schrieb Linus Torvalds:
[...]
> So before blacklisting any compilers, let's first see if
> 
>  (a) we can actually make it a real rule that we only use ACCESS_ONCE on 
> scalars
>  (b) we can somehow enforce this with a compiler warning/error for mis-uses
> 
> For example, the attached patch works for some cases, but shows how we
> use ACCESS_ONCE() on pointers to pte_t's etc, so it doesn't come even
> close to compiling the whole kernel. But I wonder how painful that
> would be to change.. The places where it complains are actually
> somewhat debatable to begin with, like:
> 
>  - handle_pte_fault(.. pte_t *pte ..):
> 
>         entry = ACCESS_ONCE(*pte);
> 
> and the thing is, "pte" is actually possibly an 8-byte entity on
> x86-32, and that ACCESS_ONCE() fundamentally will be two 32-byte
> reads.
> 
> So there is a very valid argument for saying "well, you shouldn't do
> that, then", and that we might be better off cleaning up our
> ACCESS_ONCE() uses, than to just blindly blacklist compilers.
> 
> NOTE! I'm not at all advocating the attached patch. I'm sending it out
> white-space damaged on purpose, it's more of a "hey, something like
> this might be the direction we want to go in", with the spinlock.h
> part of the patch also acting as an example of the kind of changes the
> "ACCESS_ONCE() only works on scalars" rule would require.

So I tried to see if I can come up with some results on how often this problem 
happens...

[...]


> diff --git a/include/linux/compiler.h b/include/linux/compiler.h
> index d5ad7b1118fc..63e82f1dfc1a 100644
> --- a/include/linux/compiler.h
> +++ b/include/linux/compiler.h
> @@ -378,7 +378,11 @@ void ftrace_likely_update(struct
> ftrace_branch_data *f, int val, int expect);
>   * use is to mediate communication between process-level code and irq/NMI
>   * handlers, all running on the same CPU.
>   */
> -#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
> +#define get_scalar_volatile_pointer(x) ({ \
> +       typeof(x) *__p = &(x); \
> +       volatile typeof(x) *__vp = __p; \
> +       (void)(long)*__p; __vp; })
> +#define ACCESS_ONCE(x) (*get_scalar_volatile_pointer(x))

..and just took this patch. On s390 is pretty much clean with allyesconfig
In fact with the siif lock changed only the pte/pmd cases you mentioned trigger 
a compile error:

mm/memory.c: In function 'handle_pte_fault':
mm/memory.c:3203:2: error: aggregate value used where an integer was expected
  entry = ACCESS_ONCE(*pte);

mm/rmap.c: In function 'mm_find_pmd':
mm/rmap.c:584:2: error: aggregate value used where an integer was expected
  pmde = ACCESS_ONCE(*pmd);


Here a barrier() might be a good solution as well, I guess.
On x86 allyesconfig its almost the same.
- we need your spinlock changes (well, something different to make it compile)
- we need to fix pmd and pte
- we have gup_get_pte in arch/x86/mm/gup.c getting a ptep

So It looks like we could make a change to ACCESS_ONCE. Would something like

CONFIG_ARCH_SCALAR_ACCESS_ONCE be a good start?

This would boil down to
Patch1: Provide stricter ACCESS_ONCE if CONFIG_ARCH_SCALAR_ACCESS_ONCE is set + 
docu update + comments
Patch2: Change mm/* to barriers
Patch3: Change x86 locks
Patch4: Change x86 gup
Patch4: Enable CONFIG_ARCH_SCALAR_ACCESS_ONCE for s390x and x86

Makes sense?

Christian

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