On 10/06/2009 09:40 PM, Gregory Haskins wrote:
Thinking about this some more over lunch, I think we (Avi and I) might
both be wrong (and David is right).  Avi is right that we don't need
rmb() or barrier() for the reasons already stated, but I think David is
right that we need an smp_mb() to ensure the cpu doesn't do the
reordering.  Otherwise a different cpu could invalidate the memory if it
reuses the freed memory in the meantime, iiuc.  IOW: its not a compiler
issue but a cpu issue.

Or am I still confused?


The sequence of operations is:

    v = p->v;
    f();
    // rmb() ?
    g(v);

You are worried that the compiler or cpu will fetch p->v after f() has executed? The compiler may not, since it can't tell whether f() might change p->v. If f() can cause another agent to write to p (by freeing it to a global list, for example), then it is its responsibility to issue the smp_rmb(), otherwise no calculation that took place before f() and accessed p is safe.

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Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to 
panic.

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