All: It would be a great pleasure to continue this discussion, but I do not have time to do that right now. I do not think that resolving our differences of philosophy is necessary in order to work together.
While our reasons differ, here are the things on which we agree: - DRM is not something that any of us think we want to explicitly support. - Privacy is something that we all *do* want to support. - We have agreed that if it is possible to build a system on which privacy can be sustained and DRM cannot, then Hurd should do so. - We do not know whether some technical means exists that allows us to do one and not the other. I suspect that there is not. I suggest that the philosophy discussion is much less important than the last point, and we should focus our attention on this point. However, I would note one additional point: we cannot compel users to install Hurd, and if the TPM/TCPA chips come to have widespread use then we will lose our ability to do disk forensics on Windows installations. In my next note, I will explain why I think that the DRM problem and the privacy problem are ultimately the same problem. We can then test this. In the meantime, let give at least one very strong opinion that I think we will agree on: There are scenarios where it might make sense for Hurd to support encrypted disks -- for example to prevent use of data if a laptop is stolen. In these scenarios, Hurd should ensure that the person performing the system installation has an opportunity to make an offline copy of the encryption key so that they can do forensics or recovery on their own disk. [I say "opportunity" because I cannot compel them to write the key down.] shap _______________________________________________ L4-hurd mailing list L4-hurd@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l4-hurd