-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christian Stüble wrote: >>> The TC/TCPM design that is currently being implemented on PCs is >>> entirely consistent with statement (1). It is not consistent with >>> statement (2). >> So within this design, I own my computer only partially. > You own a house. You lease a flat. You are not allowed to enter the flat > without permission of the leaser. -> You are not the owner of the house any > more? >
As you say, using the all-day term "owning" here confuses things. The abstract concept "full ownership" does not apply to this situation. >> And if I >> play them, I partially give up ownership of my monitor and graphic card. >> Hell, what component of my computer _do_ I fully own? > Bad example. You see every single bit on the screen, thus you have access > to the content in this case. > But I cannot technically access it to, say, convert the movie into another format. >> Despite the possibility of abusement, why should I pay the same price >> for something I own together with others I neither know nor trust? > You do not pay the same price. Owning a DVD including permission to watch the > movie is different from owning the movie. > I am not speaking about the price of the movie here, but about the price of the hardware. >> Would you think it is OK if government would have the legal right to >> prevent you from going into your kitchen if tv is running? > No. But this is exactly what we do not allow. > I do not understand that answer. I can (e.g.) relate "tv running" to "watching protected movie" and "going into the kitchen" to "accessing the graphics memory". And I can make up an insane relation (to, say, "playing protected music from the shell" and "accessing graphics memory"), too, which might look more like the kitchen-tv example. - -- - -ness- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE9rtsvD/ijq9JWhsRAoj6AJ47bjsSEg2vfTeQoXUS7uo5HVkIxACfVS1f XhxHjg/9EfsUVPgaPH/kBUU= =astR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ L4-hurd mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l4-hurd
