As I pointed out months ago Noble Laureate, Lui Xiaobo is in jail for
calling for full westernization of China with bourgeoisie democracy and the
Chinese Capitalist Party would not stand for losing their control and
hegemony in a one party capitalist state that they run...



Cort



http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/nobel-winner-liu-xiaobo-chinese-dissident



*Do supporters of Nobel winner Liu Xiaobo really know what he stands for?*

* *

*The Chinese dissident has praised the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan –
and said China should be fully westernized*



In recent weeks, Nobel prizewinner Liu Xiaobo's politics have been reduced
to a story of a heroic individual who upholds human rights and democracy.
His views are largely omitted to avoid a discussion about them, resulting in
a one-sided debate. Within three weeks, in Hong Kong, for example, more than
500 articles were published about Liu, of which only 10 were critical of the
man or peace prize.



In China, before the award, most people neither knew nor cared about Liu,
while, according to Andrew Jacobs, writing in the International Herald
Tribune, an "official survey of university students taken since the prize
was awarded found that 85% said they knew nothing about Mr Liu and Charter
'08." A Norwegian
Sinologist<http://www.nyemeninger.no/alle_meninger/cat1002/subcat1023/thread111699/#post_>has
elicited comments from Chinese people and indicated that younger
Chinese
still do not care about Liu. Older Chinese intellectuals are interested in
discussing the award, but many do not think Liu is an appropriate recipient.



Imprisoning Liu was entirely unnecessary. If Liu's politics were well-known,
most people would not favour him for a prize, because he is a champion of
war, not peace. He has endorsed the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and
he applauded the Vietnam and Korean wars retrospectively in a 2001 essay.
All these conflicts have entailed massive violations of human rights. Yet in
his article Lessons from the Cold War <http://wangjinbo.org/archives/1390>,
Liu argues that "The free world led by the US fought almost all regimes that
trampled on human rights …



The major wars that the US became involved in are all ethically defensible."
During the 2004 US presidential election, Liu warmly praised George Bush for
his war effort <http://www.boxun.com/hero/liuxb/217_1.shtml> against Iraq
and condemned Democratic party candidate John Kerry for not sufficiently
supporting the US's wars:



[T]he outstanding achievement made by Bush in anti-terrorism absolutely
cannot be erased by Kerry's slandering … However much risk must be endured
in striking down Saddam Hussein, know that no action would lead to a greater
risk. This has been proven by the second world war and September 11! No
matter what, the war against Saddam Hussein is just! The decision by
President Bush is right!



Liu has also one-sidedly praised Israel's stance in the Middle East
conflict. He places the blame for the Israel/Palestine conflict on
Palestinians<http://www.peacehall.com/news/gb/pubvp/2002/04/200204120229.shtml>,
who he regards as "often the provocateurs".



Liu has also advocated the total westernisation of China. In a 1988
interview he stated that "to choose westernisation is to choose to be
human<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/15/www.open.com.hk/1011p68.html>".
He also faulted a television documentary, He Shang, or River Elegy, for not
thoroughly criticising Chinese culture and not advocating westernisation
enthusiastically enough: "If I were to make this I would show just how
wimpy, spineless and fucked-up [weisuo, ruanruo, caodan] the Chinese really
are". Liu considered it most unfortunate that his monolingualism bound him
in a dialogue with something "very benighted [yumei] and philistine
[yongsu]," the Chinese cultural sphere. Harvard researcher Lin Tongqi noted
that an early 1990s book by Liu contains "pungent attacks on the Chinese
national character". In a well-known statement of 1988, Liu said:



It took Hong Kong 100 years to become what it is. Given the size of China,
certainly it would need 300 years of colonisation for it to become like what
Hong Kong is today. I even doubt whether 300 years would be enough.



Affirming this sentiment in Open magazine in 2006, he added that progress in
China depends on westernisation and the more westernisation, the more
progress <http://www.open.com.hk/0701p26.html>. While his supporters excuse
Liu's pro-colonialism as a provocation, it logically aligns with his support
for total westernisation and US-led regime changing wars.



Liu, in his "Charter
'08"<http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/chinas-charter-08/>,
called for a Western-style political system in China and privatisation of
all enterprises and farm land. Not surprisingly, the organisations he has
headed received financial support from the US government's National
Endowment for 
Democracy<http://www.ned.org/for-reporters/ned-extends-its-warmest-congratulations-to-grantee-liu-xiaobo-on-receiving-the-nobel-p>.
Studies show, however, that where transitions to electoral democracy occur
in countries with low levels of average wealth, the rule of law does not
necessarily follow, but instability and low levels of development do.
Neither does electoral democracy deliver good governance, nor even sustain
itself under such conditions.



Nowhere in the post-communist or developing world has there been the fair
privatisation Liu claims to seek. Privatisation in eastern Europe often led
to massive thefts of public property by oligarchs and became deeply
unpopular, with strong majorities of people in all post-Communist countries
wanting its revision. Privatisation is also disliked in India, Latin America
and China itself, while studies of privatisation in many parts of the world
show it can have a deleterious effect on development. Land privatisation in
China would rapidly create land concentration and landless peasants.



Forty years ago, a Nobel prize committee upheld formerly imprisoned writer
Alexander Solzhenitsyn as a symbol of freedom against the Soviet regime. As
with Liu, it may have been unaware of or chose to ignore Solzhenitsyn's
classically reactionary
views<http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-a-reactionary-called-solzhenitsyn-886115.html?startindex=30>:
his own version of authoritarianism, an animus toward Jews, denunciation of
the US for not pursuing the war in Vietnam more vigorously, condemnation of
Amnesty International as too liberal, and support for the Spanish fascist
dictator Francisco Franco.



The Nobel peace prize is a prize for politics of certain kind. The Norwegian
Nobel Institute director has noted that the Nobel Committee has most often
selected "those who had spoken out ... against the Communist dictators in
Moscow and the dictators in Beijing." French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre
recognized the Nobel prizes' role in the Cold war and refused to accept one
in 1964. He stated: "In the present situation, the Nobel Prize stands
objectively as a distinction reserved for the writers of the West or the
rebels of the East." That role has been continued with Liu's prize.


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