Why are we being subjected to this emotional knee jerk diversionary crud on this list?
This list, I thought was for alternate media, not for infiltrating by the hollyweird entertainment distraction services that support the Status Quo of NO CHANGE. Scott > I like it. But I hope that Christians are also allowed to > participate in the Atheist Church. And Atheists should also > be allowed to participate in Christian Churches. Let the > Atheists and the Christians be friends! And who cares if > there is a âGodâ or not??? I do not think that even God > cares if there is a God or not. > > âLetâs Get Together â Right Now!â > > GOD DAMN that would be good! > > > > From: change-li...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:change-li...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Richard > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:28 PM > To: change-li...@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [change-links] *? 2 ALL: ATHEISTS FIND TOGETHERNESS AND > RITUAL IN LONDON'S NEW GODLESS CHURCH - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?* > > > > > > > > > Church or âChurchâ? Hell, you can call an occupied chicken coop a > church . Words, words, words. Hey, I get their shtick but Iâve seen it > all before and the script is sooo predictable and b-o-r-i-n-g. Amen. > > > > From: change-li...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:change-li...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Greg Dempsey > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 9:16 PM > To: greg dempsey > Subject: [change-links] *? 2 ALL: ATHEISTS FIND TOGETHERNESS AND RITUAL IN > LONDON'S NEW GODLESS CHURCH - WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS?* > > > > > > > http://sundayassembly.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Web-Banner-2.jpg > > > Hi Team! > > > *? 2 ALL: > > > ATHEISTS FIND TOGETHERNESS AND RITUAL IN LONDON'S NEW GODLESS CHURCH - > > > The Sunday Assembly > <http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359916745689/The-Sunday-Assembly-010.jpg> > > > > (above): The Sunday Assembly: Sanderson Jones (left) and Pippa Evans > > (blonde with guitar) have created a morning that is part-atheist church, > part- > > foot stomping show. Photograph: Sarah Lee for the Guardian > > > > Esther Addley reports: > > ââI feel sorry for the church next door, waiting for their three > people to trickle in,â says Nick Julius, glancing at the small adjacent > hall which will shortly be hosting its own gathering. There are still 40 > minutes before the Sunday Assembly, an atheist service run by two standup > comedians, is due to begin, but a queue of eager congregants is already > forming outside a grand but crumbling former church in Islington, north > London, hands shoved deep into pockets against the cold. > > <http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/1.1747944> > > (above): Sanderson Jones > > âJulius arrived an hour early, just to be sure of a place at the > service, which is described by its organizers as âa godless congregation > that meets ⦠to hear great talks, sing songs and generally celebrate > lifeâ. But why? âI came last time and really enjoyed it. Itâs got > all the good things about church without the terrible dogma. I like the > sense of community â and who doesnât enjoy a sing song?â > > > <http://www.tntmagazine.com/entertainment/interviews/sunday-service-without-god-we-chat-to-the-people-behind-londons-first-atheist-church/page/2> > > âThis is only the second time organizers Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans > have hosted the monthly event (motto: live better, help often, wonder > more), and they admit to being a little overwhelmed by the enthusiasm with > which the event has already been greeted. More than 200 people came to the > first event; today there are perhaps 300, with several dozen more carrying > on a parallel discussion in a local pub. Inside the nave of the > deconsecrated church, volunteer helpers have been bunching chairs closer > together, adding extra benches and childrenâs seats in every scrap of > space. It is not a problem most vicars struggle with on a Sunday morning. > > Pippa Evans > <http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/8/1357643295095/Pippa-Evans-009.jpg> > > > > (above): Sunday school ... Pippa Evans, one of the comedians > > involved in setting up the Sunday Assembly. > > Photograph: Geraint Lewis/Rex Features > > âJones, a tall, bounding figure with a hairstyle and beard verging on > the messianic, says the idea emerged from his own comedy, where he > encouraged those coming to his gigs to get to know each other, and they in > turn pressed him for ways to stay in touch and even build small groups. > There was clearly a thirst for community, he decided, and perhaps others > felt, as he did, that words like awe and transcendence shouldnât be the > preserve only of religious people. > > > http://www.tntmagazine.com/media/08.-Sunday-Assembly-Venue--The-Nave-a-Deconsecrated-Church.jpg > > ââI would go to a carol service or a friendâs wedding, and there > would be so much about it that I really liked â the togetherness, the > rituals â but I just couldnât get past the God bit.â Atheism has > been caricatured as a cold, empty position, he says, âbut for me, my not > believing in God if anything makes my life more precious, knowing that we > are here for such a tiny amount of time.ââ (continued below) > > > > > http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Sanderson-Jones-Pippa-Evans.jpg > > > > (above l to r): Sanderson Jones and Pippa Evans > > > Atheists find togetherness and ritual in Londonâs new godless church - > what are your comments? > > > Greg Dempsey > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SECULARHUMANIST/ > Voice of the People > > > > ======= > > > > Atheists find togetherness and ritual in Londonâs new godless church > > > > By Esther Addley, The Guardian > Sunday, February 3, 2013 14:38 EST > > ...The Sunday Assembly may be godless, but a churchgoer who stumbled > through the wrong door would find much they recognise. The service opens > with a song, led by Evans and an enthusiastic band at the front; instead > of a hymn, however, it is âDonât Stop Me Nowâ by Queen (âWeâve > chosen something that allows hamming it up to the maxâ). The service > features a reading, a moment of reflective silence, even a collection to > pay for the rental of the church, during which people are invited to turn > in the pews and greet those sitting beside and behind them. The plan in > future is to engage members in community-based good works. > > There is also a sermon, of sorts, on the dayâs theme of âwonderâ, > which sees > <http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2012/jul/11/science-museum-particle-physicist-harry-cliff> > Dr Harry Cliff, a particle physicist from Cambridge, talking about > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation> Diracâs equation > predicting antimatter (âthe most amazing theory in historyâ) and the > enormous statistical odds against the universe existing in the first > place. The congregation then stands to sing > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE> Superstition by Stevie > Wonder. > > Might the early popularity of the Sunday Assembly hint at the start of > something that could take off on a large scale? Andrew Copson, chief > executive of the <http://humanism.org.uk/> British Humanist Association, > is sceptical, noting that a wave of atheist churches were formed in the > late nineteenth and early 20th centuries, âbut they petered out because > people found other forms of social organisation that suited them better. I > think itâs an interesting development but itâs something thatâs been > tried many times before. Whatâs probably different is that thereâs a > strong entertainment element. Itâs an entertainment as well as a > communal activity. It just happens to be on a Sunday morning.â > > âI can understand why the format of church would be very appealing,â > says David Robertson, director of the <http://solas-cpc.org/> Solas > Centre for Public Christianity and a Church of Scotland minister in > Dundee, âbut I do think itâs going to appeal only to one particular > section of the communityâ â what he calls âa middle class cultural > eliteâ. âThe church is focusing on following Jesus Christ, and that > cuts across cultures and across communities.â > > Having been startled by the popularity of the event, Jones insists his > thinking about expanding the assembly has stretched only so far as adding > an additional service > <http://www.facebook.com/events/118194975027258/?ref=22> next month, to be > held in the <http://www.facebook.com/events/208287195981520/?ref=22> > afternoon. But there are signs that the idea could bear replicating. > > Neil Denham and a small group of friends have come from High Wycombe, > hoping for inspiration. âWe were just looking for ideas, whether > something like this could work outside London,â he says. Their verdict? > âSome of the things I thought really wouldnât work, like the singing, > were really good. Normally I hate singing.â > > Churches do a lot of what they do, he notes, âbecause it works. Atheists > make a mistake to look at church and throw it all out just because they > donât believe in God. â___ > > > > Change Links Progressive Newspaper. > Act. 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