Cort, I really do not like your sources on Syria.

I only made it to the first sentence and went WTF? Why is this person so
intent on using emotional trigger statements that simply do not hold up to
minor scrutiny? These kind of statements are designed to lead peoples
decisions by emotional rather then factual presentations.

The sentence in mind is;
"Assad supporters and apologists around the world have constantly accused
the free Syrian people and those who stand in solidarity with them of
siding with American imperialism, Zionism and most of all Al-Qaeda."

The ONLY Place I see this kind of lump the Syrians who revolted with the
Saudi, Israeli and Americans is coming form the stuff you send.

No one else, on any other anti war pro human site I'm on insists on mixing
the paid mercenaries of Israel, Saudi Arabia and the USA in with those
fighting for freedom from what both Assad AND the outsiders would subject
them too.

I also do not see Assad Supporters and Apologists everywhere as apparently
you and this author do. I think your blowing that out of proportion.

To remain silent on this issue would mean my silence supporting your Nazi
Assad Bad, Western Forces not bad trend in posting about Syria, while
completely ignoring who it was that started the revolt, and why.

The only thing they all have in common is they want Assad gone, and you
seem to have a grasp of history, so what happens to the people of nations 
Israel and the USA's forces take over, the Israeli's are racially
prejudiced agasint, and the USA wants the resources and military bases for
the control of it's Corporatcy?

Scott

> New post on *P U L S E* <http://pulsemedia.org/author/davethomson/>Khaled
> Khalifa: Silence is Disgraceful
> Too<http://pulsemedia.org/2013/10/09/khaled-khalifa-silence-is-disgraceful-too/>
> by Dave <http://pulsemedia.org/author/davethomson/>
>
> The following is an interview with the renowned Syrian writer Khaled
> Khalifa, which was released on the 2nd Sept 2013. Pulse editor Robin
> Yassin-Kassab was honoured to be asked to write the introduction to the
> English translation of Khaled Khalifa‘s third novel, In Praise of
> Hatred.
> Some of that introduction is available here.
>
> Read more of this
> post<http://pulsemedia.org/2013/10/09/khaled-khalifa-silence-is-disgraceful-too/>
>
> http://pulsemedia.org/2013/10/09/khaled-khalifa-silence-is-disgraceful-too/
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/assads-neo-nazi-supporters/
>
> Assad’s Neo-Nazi Supporters
> 1
> Reply<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/assads-neo-nazi-supporters/#comments>
>
> Assad supporters and apologists around the world have constantly accused
> the free Syrian people and those who stand in solidarity with them of
> siding with American imperialism, Zionism and most of all Al-Qaeda. Aside
> of the fact that anyone who *might* see an enemy in the Assad regime
> doesn’t necessarily share the values or aims of the Syrian revolution
> against it, there is nothing worse to support or be apologetic about in
> Syria than Assad. Such people have apparently have no qualms with standing
> on the same side as his
> Shabbiha<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/category/assadistan/assads-shabbiha/>,
> or Russian and Iranian imperialism,
> Khomeinist<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-hassan-nasr-and-his-hezb/>
> foot
> soldiers from Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan and other
> places<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/06/06/assads-foreign-jihadists-and-mercenaries/>
> and
> so on either.
>
> It should therefore matter little that neo-Nazis around the world could be
> added to this list as well. And why should it when the Nazi practices of
> the Assad regime are something to be apologetic about and too
> insignificant
> to take the focus away from those horrible freedom seekers that oppose
> him.
> It’s only natural that neo-Nazis, too, have been charmed by the Syrian
> Fuhrer. After all, he’s one of the few who can add the gassing of
> children<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/08/22/hundreds-of-children-gassed-in-damascus-chemical-massacre/>
> to
> his Nazi resume.
>
> There are many reasons for them to support Assad, not in the least his
> role
> in the war against Muslims and his perceived opposition to Jews and
> America, and surely the fear that the masses fleeing from him will end up
> in Europe plays an important role as well. Considering the violent and
> aggressive nature of the neo-Nazi culture, it’s also not very surprising
> that some of them would travel and fight for him either. Recently in the
> media, news reports of the neo-Nazi fiasco in Greece were commonly
> followed
> by updates on Assad’s chemical disarmament process. None, however,
> caught
> this nice “bridge” to put between them:
>
> [image: null]
> [*A recent Black
> Lily<http://mavroskrinos.blogspot.gr/2013/09/blog-post_9.html>
> demonstration
> in Athens in support of the Assad regime*]
>
> Believe it or not there is a far more dangerous extreme right group in
> Greece besides Golden Dawn. It’s name is Black Lily and they are a
> Nationalist Socialist organisation… They do not hesitate to use guns to
> defend their ideological beliefs… In Syria members of “Black Lily”
> are not
> using words or bathing people with cans of fizzy drinks. In Syria they are
> armed and dangerous. A whole platoon of volunteers are fighting side by
> side with Assad’s government forces.”Democratia” newspaper
> journalist
> Panagiotis Liakos contacted Stavros Libovisis member of the editorial
> group
> of “Black Lily” and in an interview asked him about the involvement
> and
> role of the organisation in the Syrian conflict. – Syria: The Greek
> Nationalist Socialists that are fighting alongside Assad’s
> regime<http://glykosymoritis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/syria-greek-nationalist-socialists-that.html>
>
> Vice’s Brian Whelan did pick it up and wrote an excellent article about
> it:
>
> I spent the subsequent weeks emailing the group, looking for pictures or
> video evidence to prove that their fighters are on the ground. The
> group’s
> responses were guarded, as they were apparently worried for the safety of
> their members, but their claims weren’t totally implausible. “These
> days,
> more Greeks are in Syria with the Syrian Armed Forces,” they told me.
> “Very
> soon we are going to have news.” – ARE GREEK NEO-NAZIS FIGHTING FOR
> ASSAD
> IN
> SYRIA?<http://www.vice.com/read/are-greek-neo-nazis-fighting-for-assad-in-syria1>
>
> As Whelan also suggests, without casualty reports and other evidence from
> Syria it’s very difficult to prove that Black Lily or any neo-Nazi
> movement
> is fighting alongside Assad. The claim that other European neo-Nazis are
> doing the same and that among them are Russians, Poles and Ukrainians are
> in the end their own claims. However, it is exactly such claims that makes
> it all the more relevant. Whether they have actually fought or not, they
> have certainly gone there and no part of their ideology or movements they
> belong to would stop them from doing so. They are, after all,
> self-proclaimed warriors who support the Assad regime. Whelan writes:
>
> My Black Lily contact also “revealed” that they are part of the
> European
> Solidarity Front for Syria (ESFS) <http://www.esfsyria.org/>, a group that
> has organized protests and rallies in support of Assad across the
> continent. The ESFS have also held talks about Syria in Italy—hosted by
> the
> fascist
> groupCasaPound<http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2013/06/05/manifestazione-pro-assad-fascisti-da-tutta-europa_n_3390190.html>—that
> have been exposed as fronts for fascist Third Positionist group meet-ups,
> with Belgian Third Positionist *Ruben Sosiers* listed as the main speaker
> at a June event in Rome. Flags from CasaPound, the ESFS-affiliated Sempre
> Domani and the fascist-inspired group
> Zenit<http://www.frontesiria.org/?p=223> were
> all on display at a later meeting.
>
> [image: null]
> [*The ESFS together with Assad's army as posted on Black Lily's
> blog<http://mavroskrinos.blogspot.gr/2013/09/blog-post.html>
> *]
>
> The ESFS website is a collection of links to their Facebook pages and
> websites in 16 countries. Other than their militancy, they don’t seem to
> be
> neo-Nazi in their appearance beyond their Assadism, which is fascist
> enough
> on its own, but considering the role played by this movement it is all the
> more telling. And even more so the following:
>
> While the ESFS have been able to make contact with pro-Assad members of
> the
> Syrian community, it’s unclear whether the people who have shown up to
> their protests in Rome and other European capitals are fully aware of who
> is behind them. One thing that has been made clear by a number of photos
> is
> that the ESFS have infiltrated larger antiwar protests, passing themselves
> off as anti-war activists, and have built some support within Syrian
> migrant communities.
>
> But this infiltration is only telling to us, not to Assad’s supporters
> and
> apologists, unless they happen to spot one and engage him in a
> conversation
> about his favorite topics: inferior races and cultures. Assad’s blue
> eyes
> might give way for some leniency, but Arabs as such will always remain a
> step too far. Until then, the following should also be of interest:
>
> Since the conflict began in 2011, far-right groups from across the world
> have been courting the Syrian government. On the slightly more moderate
> end
> of the scale, BNP leader Nick Griffin rode into Damascus a few months back
> to have his photo taken with the prime minister, Wael Nader Al-Halqi, and
> publicly rail against the Free Syrian Army. On the more extreme end,
> fascist Greek mercenaries may now be training in Syria to help defend
> Assad
> and have formed a European support network to spread pro-regime
> propaganda.
>
>
> [*Griffin with Al-Halqi*]
>
> Nick Griffin, the BNP leader, said that Syria was “under attack” as he
> embarked on a surprise visit yesterday sponsored by the Assad
> Government. – Life
> here is normal, says Nick
> Griffin<http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article3788796.ece>
>
> What is more interesting even is that Griffin wasn’t the only one there.
> On
> the same day last year and meeting the same people was a delegation of
> Polish fascists who reported about their
> trip<http://openrevolt.info/2013/06/15/polish-comrades-report-to-open-revolt-from-syria/>
> to
> another, somewhat more
> eccentric<http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/winter/the-fourth-position>
> neo-Nazi
> movement, the American New Resistance <http://openrevolt.info/?s=syria>
> which
> is also supportive of Assad and is led by former American Front leader
> James Porazzo. The Poles had the following to say:
>
> In recent days, as Polish revolutionary nationalists, editors of
> *Xportal.pl
> * and activists of*Organization Falanga*, we went to Syria, where they
> weigh the fate of the war between the national government forces and the
> “rebels”… During the night of 10 to 11 June, our delegation arrived
> in
> Damascus… Bartosz Bekier, Leader of the Falanga, Xportal.pl Chief
> Editor:
> “We met today with the Prime Minister of the Syrian Arab Republic
> Wa’il
> al-Halki and Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mokdad. During one of the
> meetings there was a double suicide bombing in the center of Damascus –
> Falanga delegation immediately went to the scene. …Polish nationalists
> are
> standing with an independent Syria, approaching the final victory.
>
> Whether they joined Griffin’s trip or bumped into him, what’s
> noteworthy is
> that apparently an entire delegation of fascists from multiple countries
> visited the Assad regime last year. But there’s more to it. A couple of
> months later, these same Polish fascists had been demonstrating their
> support for Assad in front of the Syrian embassy, reportedly upon their
> invitation:
>
>
> [*Not at the embassy in August*]
>
> Suddenly at 1st P.M. on the pro-Syrian side appeard people from *All
> Polish
> Youth*. Only local activists without any leader. This group although known
> as Neonazi gang nowadays is group of catholic bigots which try to enter
> mainstream. Last time they started declarating support to Iran government.
> A few minutes some strange guy started giving maoist leaflets to Syrians
> trying to explain that people who were killed in last two days were
> imperialist agents. Second far right group who supported Al-Assad was *
> Niklot*. This is not political group, just association of culture led by
> Slavic Pagan Neonazis. It is difficult to say why did they join. But the
> main role in this spectacle was played by *Falanga* and their
> leader*Bartosz
> Bekier (on the picture)*. Bartosz Bekier is former leader of Mazovian
> National Radical Camp who was kicked out with all his group because of
> their strange political views. Although Bekier used to be against all
> kinds
> of Communism now he cooperates with Maoists and National Bolshevics. That
> is why Falanga was officially banned on National Radical Camp actions and
> was not active in Warsaw for a few years. This time they came. Bekier had
> his own megaphone and shouted slogans to people who opposes as “rats go
> home” and “yankees go home”. Because of this many people whose
> relatives
> are persecuted in Syria could not stand it and decided to go. Only the
> most
> militant people stayed. Somebody shouted “Bartosz Bekier, bitch of
> Al-Assad”. Although Syrian embassy organized Fascist event there was no
> comments about that in mass medias. – Syrian embassy invites Polish
> fascists to demonstrate solidarity with
> Al-Assad<http://libcom.org/news/syrian-embassy-invites-polish-fascists-demonstrate-solidarity-al-assad-28082012>
>
> [image: null]
> [*Polish Falanga leaders together with those of the fascist movement
> Slovenska
> Pospolitost <http://xportal.pl/falanga/images/slovensko2.jpg> in
> Slowakia*]
>
> Their Slovak friends seem less connected or occupied with the Assad
> regime,
> though their views are the same. German neo-Nazis on the other hand have
> been following the outspoken path of their Polish colleagues:
>
> According to the
> uploader<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=585345811504492&set=a.512021808836893.1073741828.512020392170368&type=1&theater>
> of
> this photo, it came from a recent neo-Nazi demonstration in Dortmund,
> Germany. Their own website <http://antikriegstag.com/> forwards to the
> fascist “The Right” party in Dortmund. In Berlin, neo-Nazis have been
> “heckling
> Syrian refugees
> <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4422518,00.html>“.
> Neo-Nazis also appeared at last year at Khomenist “Quds Day” in
> Berlin,
> though this guy doesn’t really look like one:
>
> [image: null]
>
> I met one neo-Nazi, who called himself Gene and was wearing a homemade
> T-shirt that read *Assad Ist Gut (Assad is Good)*. I asked him how such a
> collection of politically disparate people could come together. His new
> friend, Tuna, who was Turkish, translated: “Today we put apart our
> differences for Jerusalem and to stop the Jews. It’s easy.” –
> Talking With
> Neo-Nazis and Pro-Israel
> Germans<http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/109931/talking-with-neo-nazis-and-pro-israel-germans>
>
> Perhaps Turks or even Arabs aren’t step too far, considering that many
> of
> his Russian, Polish, Slovak and other Slavonic colleagues were considered
> *
> untermensch* by their great examples in the ’30′s and ’40′s. It
> didn’t stop
> such people and far beyond from joining either, and doesn’t stop them
> today.
>
> Whelan continues:
>
> Although it might seem odd, the story isn’t particularly shocking.
> Assad’s
> door has been open to far-right groups for years. In 2005, five years
> after
> Bashar had assumed power, American white nationalist and KKK grand wizard
> David Duke visited Damascus to give a televized speech where he attacked
> Israel and told the Syrian leader, “Your fight for freedom is the same
> as
> our fight for freedom.” The regime was charmed, and clearly happy to
> play
> host to an American Holocaust denier who would back their dislike of
> Israel.
>
> Video
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21wyi5eGpxA
>
>
>
> David Duke’s more recent Assadist propaganda rants can be found on his
> website <http://davidduke.com/?s=syria>. In a different article, Whelan
> exposes an sad ignorance that admittedly does exist among more than a few
> ordinary Syrians:
>
> Strangely, each visitor harbors a deep-seated, urgent need to share his
> eerie fascination with Adolf Hitler the moment he finds out I’m German.
> “Adolf Hitler, strong man. Adolf Hitler, very good man. Ah, Germany!
> Adolf
> Hitler. Do you like Adolf Hitler?” I try to dissuade them. No, no.
> Hitler
> was a bad man. Very bad. Unfortunately I speak no Arabic, and the debate
> soon falters. Comparing Hitler with Bashar al-Assad seems to provoke the
> desired effect, but it never lasts long. “Hitler not good?” they ask,
> a
> look of disappointment on their faces. – DODGING BULLETS WITH SYRIAN
> REBELS
> WHO LOVE SOCCER AND ADOLF
> HITLER<http://www.vice.com/read/i-spent-a-week-living-with-syrian-rebels>
>
> It is not something for other societies who have their own demons to be
> judgmental of, but it is nevertheless an ignorance that exists in the
> Muslim world, more so in the Arab world [and not at all particular to
> Muslims] and most certainly in Syria. It is an ignorance born out of,
> obviously ignorance as such, religious misconceptions and their misuse,
> and
> a political culture that stimulates and facilitates it. In Syria, most of
> this ignorance comes from the Assad regime and the fascist ideologies it
> inherited, and can mostly be found among, but is not limited to, the
> supporters of this regime. Aside of being a Nazi in practice, Assad
> himself
> is an anti-Semite and a nationalist [in words that is, in reality he is
> nothing]. Both ideologies have been adopted from Europe and the latter in
> particular has developed in response to the establishment of Israel and
> what followed.
>
> This regime’s political culture of xenophobia, hatred and fascism
> directed
> at opponents has influenced Syrian society to the extent that such
> ignorance is not out of the ordinary. Therein Hitler is considered to have
> been a good man because of “the Jews”, when in reality he was one of
> the
> worst enemies of God because of the beliefs that he put to practice,*
> especially* in regards to Jews and many other innocent human beings. He
> was
> one of the greatest monsters to have walked this planet and Assad is
> trying
> his utmost to follow in his footsteps. Of course, it is just one example
> of
> so many things that have to be overcome. The somewhat related belief that
> Khomeinist terrorists are the protectors of Islam and Muslims is another,
> though there’s fortunately little left of that one nowadays. Seeing is
> believing. This one is fading too, in Syria that is. It must be thriving
> in
> Egypt. But the Assad regime did and inherited more than that:
>
> [image: null]
> [*Eichmann aide, SS Lieutenant Alois Brunner*]
>
> But the number one most-wanted, potentially-still-alive Nazi war criminal
> on the list is suspected to be in Damascus, possibly in the Meridien
> Hotel,
> living — last we know of, anyway — under the protection of the Syrian
> government. The Wiesenthal Center admits that the chances that Alois
> Brunner, born in 1912, and last spotted in 2001, is still among the living
> are ‘slim’ – “but until conclusive evidence of his demise is
> obtained” the
> hunt for Brunner should continue, the Center says. How did Brunner, Adolf
> Eichmann’s second in command, who deported at least 128,000 Jews to Nazi
> camps, come to find refuge in Syria where he built a “safe and glowingly
> prosperous” life?
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYrG9JTPKY
>
>
> During the 1950s and 1960s, the names of prominent Nazis living in Syria
> began to surface. One was SS Captain Theodor Dannecker, who had helped
> Adolf Eichmann implement Hitler’s genocide policy in France, Bulgaria,
> and
> Hungary. When the legendary Israeli spy Eli Cohen took up residence in
> Damascus in 1962, his Syrian acquaintances introduced him to Karl
> Rademacher, a senior Eichmann aide who had been involved in the mass
> murder
> of Jews from Belgium, Holland, Croatia, and elsewhere. After the war,
> Radmacher had fled to Syria and became an official in the Syrian Secret
> Service. – Syria Sheltering War Criminals? Not the First
> Time<http://wymaninstitute.org/articles/2003-04-syria.php>
>
> The most famous “Nazi safe haven” has always been Argentina, a country
> that
> happens to have a large and long standing Syrian community as well. Of
> course the two are completely unrelated, but it might be the ideal
> breeding
> ground for the flourishing relationship between neo-Nazis and the Assad
> regime. The above image is taken from the blog of Argentinian neo-Nazi
> movement Bastion <http://bastionarg.blogspot.com.ar/> as was pointed
> out on Argentinian
> Indymedia <http://argentina.indymedia.org/news/2013/02/831724.php>.
> Whether
> it has gone beyond the mere expression of support in this case is unclear.
>
> To get an overall impression of how neo-Nazis and fascists see the Assad
> regime the well known international forum
> StormFront<http://www.stormfront.org/forum/search.php?searchid=14517195>
> suffices.
> Proper research into these movements and their followers would certainly
> reveal the sympathies of many more groups towards Assad and his war
> against
> the Syrian people. Further research will also reveal how more groups than
> the ones mentioned here will actually have some sort of relationship with
> the regime, and how they are aiding it in terms of propaganda as well as
> finances. And, if anyone could dig as deep as Whelan with perhaps another
> group, like the Poles, some of those fighters inside Syria might be found.
> Nothing is stopping them from it and Assad does maintain friendly
> relations
> with some. While having to pay for professional mercenaries from Russia
> and
> the Ukraine, these lot would bring money with them instead.
>
> [image: null]
> [*The ESFS in Damascus*]
>
> I’m sure they’re not that many, perhaps not even hundreds let alone
> thousands, but it has happened before. Neo-Nazis flocked to fight for the
> Croats<http://freehalab.wordpress.com/2013/10/09/bosnia-and-syria-genocide-extremism-and-intervention/>
> during
> the war, while Greeks in particular, as also mentioned and linked by
> Whelan, fought alongside the
> Serbs<http://www.hri.org/news/balkans/omri/1995/95-07-14.omri.html#07>.
> The latter were much more likely religiously and culturally driven, and
> surely not like the neo-Nazis who fought on the opposing side. However,
> the
> two have come together in Syria which means that one shouldn’t only look
> at
> neo-Nazis when it comes to the Greeks. In fact, around the region and
> throughout the world there are so many different kinds of foreigners
> coming
> in to support Assad that it has become very hard to keep track.
>
> Even if we would take all of these neo-Nazi’s put together, it’s not
> exactly *the* other “type of international engagement playing out in the
> country” in comparison to the “jihadists” That role is already taken
> by
> their Khomeinist counterparts from around the region who have become much
> more significant to Assad’s survival than any foreigners fighting him
> threatens his downfall. They are better armed and there are likely more of
> them. Neo-Nazis, ideologically driven adventurers and mercenaries of sorts
> may be a growing part of Assad’s foreign legion, but surely not the main
> one. What makes this a topic has more to do with who neo-Nazis are and
> that
> they’re trying to contribute to Assad’s cause, rather than the extent
> and
> ways in which they do so.
>
> <http://www.sktwelfare.org/donate>
>
>
>    -
>






------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
LAAMN: Los Angeles Alternative Media Network
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unsubscribe: <mailto:laamn-unsubscr...@egroups.com>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subscribe: <mailto:laamn-subscr...@egroups.com>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Digest: <mailto:laamn-dig...@egroups.com>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Help: <mailto:laamn-ow...@egroups.com?subject=laamn>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post: <mailto:la...@egroups.com>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Archive1: <http://www.egroups.com/messages/laamn>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Archive2: <http://www.mail-archive.com/laamn@egroups.com>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/laamn/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/laamn/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    laamn-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
    laamn-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    laamn-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

Reply via email to