On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: > On 27/05/2011 11:58, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >> On 27/05/2011 08:25, ant elder wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >>> <jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder<ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ... >> >>>>> - provide access to non-existing ASF people. Perhaps something like >>>>> as long as there is an ASF committer initially creating the lab then >>>>> they can get non-asf people access to participate. >>>> >>>> Difficult. Violates a standard ASF policy. My guess is that the'd >>>> need at least to sign the standard CLA, which is basically the same >>>> hurdle than accepting them as committers. >>>> >>> >>> I don't see any policy violations, as you say the new person submits a >>> CLA and then the Labs PMC votes them as a committer. Where's the >>> issue? The point is to make it known that its an available and easy >>> option. The last lab created was monsoon and that has now moved out to >>> google code for exactly this reason that a non-existing ASF committer >>> couldn't participate here. >> >> The whole point of labs, when it was created, was that it was not >> another hosting environment for all comers. It was the provision of >> infrastructure for committers to play around with stuff. >> >> Changing this would mean changing the whole purpose of labs, it would no >> longer be labs. > > To ensure that this doesn't come across as a negative "don't even consider > this" let me clarify what I mean: > > Labs was created for a specific reason and the rules it currently operates > under were created in response to that. If there is an appetite for for > changing those rules I believe it is important that the original motivation > for labs be revisited first. Or as I said in my first mail: > > "It would be worth revisiting why labs was created and ask have any of the > motivations changed?" >
Fair enough, but just to be clear I'm not suggesting making it a hosting environment for all comers I suggested keeping it only for ASF committers to create new labs but finding a way to enable having choosen non-committer individuals also get access. This thread is about how to revive labs, this is an example of why one a recent lab left for somewhere else, and this is an approach that could have been prevented that. I see it as more of a process tweak than a major purpose change. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
