On 31/05/2011 16:46, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
If you want to make a release for people to use it then I imagine you would
want them to get the source and maybe even fix a bug. In which case you
can't do that in a lab. So again, apache-extras.org is the right home.
Why not? I can't get a patch and apply it?
> People are able to check the code out anonymously?
True. I was thinking of something more substantial though. Something
that has IP in it that must be managed. In this case labs cannot fulfill
the requirements unless the committer is already an ASF committer.
If the answer to 1) is yes, I was afraid before all the voting before
the lab creation.
If the answer to 2) is yes, then I like Labs much more then before.
Labs is a place for experimentation, not a place for developing software
that is intended to be used. Your use case sounds more like software for use
than an experiment.
This is what I don't like. Imho Labs should be the place were
Committers can collaborate.
It *is* a place where committers can collaborate. What is stopping you
collaborating with committers?
As I have no karma to Struts - I now need
to go to github or something to collaborate with them. That feels
wrong.
You only need to go elsewhere if you want to build a community outside
of ASF committers. If labs is not right for you then perhaps
apache-extras is?
What is it that you want labs to give you that it doesn't currently give>
I understood Labs is no codedrop box. But I wish it would be a bit more of that.
What is a "codedrop box"?
After all I never had an idea what I could develop within the labs. As
I started with my json lib I went out to googlecode because I was not
sure if a new Json component was experimental enough.
"experimental enough"? That's sounds really strange. Labs is for any
project that wants to give automatic access to all ASF committers and
not have to worry about ASF legal oversight and as a consequence not
make releases. Labs does not make decisions about "experimental enough".
The decision to host here or not is entirely the decision of the PI
based on their objectives for the project.
I understand that you say labs doesn't match this need, but was it
designed to do so? Should it be modified to do so? If so how and how
would this make labs better realise its objectives?
Perhaps, in your case, we should be looking at making better use of
apache-extras.org through the labs PMC (the ComDev PMC looks after it
right now but we are deliberately hands-off on it).
Ross
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