Dear Ronna,

Without wanting to dampen your enthusiam, I would say that your main problem is
that you want to do too many things at once as a beginner! Goodness me, I'd
never heard of a beginner wanting to try 6 different types of lace  when they
had only just started learaning !! No wonder it's costing you a fortune!

All the laces you mention except torchon are fairly demanding, and if you don't
have the basic techniques at your fingertips, you will drown in conflicting
instructions, as some things are not made in exactly the same way in different
laces. 

However, if you really want to try all those things at once, just buy some
fairly straight bobbins, made of heavy woods, not pine, with a pointy rather
than rounded end, so you can use them for different kinds of lace. Honiton,
Withof and Milanese don't require many bobbins, in Honiton and Withof, you keep
starting and cutting,(which in itself is difficult for a beginner), and
Milanese is a tape lace, so you only use 10-15 pairs, usually, particularly for
beginner's pieces.
The main thing is that spangled bobbins are awkward to use in those laces,
because you keep having to do "sewings" i.e. catching one of the threads with a
crochet hook to get it through a bit you've already made so that the lace holds
together. As long as your bobbins are slightly pointed at the end, you should
be able to use them for any lace. Just because some parts of the world had
different types of bobbins from others doesn't mean that we can't make that
lace with the bobbins we have!! I did a Rosaline(kind of Withof workshop with
spangled bobbins, once, because I didn't have any others, and I didn't want to
spend money on some I knew I wouldn't use much after. It worked, it was just
awkward to pull the thread through, but with a bit of care, I managed OK. And
my teacher didn't blast me off either, she just accepted that I only had those
bobbins.

My suggestion would be to stick to one type of lace until you can feel you are
fairly confident in it, and then do workshops in other types of laces, to see
which ones you really like. If you feel Honiton is your thing, go ahead and buy
Honiton bobbins and thread, and have lessons, but don't spend all your money
buying various things which you may never want to use again after one try!! I
did one workshop in Beds (with my torchon bobbins), and decided it was not my
cup of tea at all. If I had bought all the supplies plus all the books
specially for it, it would have been a complete waste of money.
As for books, I suggest you join a local lacemakers's group. Most of them have
a library where you can borrow books. A lot cheaper than trying to buy all at
once, when you don't even know whether they are good or not.
This is my comment about your problems. I hoep you find what you want, and
above all, that you keep making lace, which is the most important!!
Best of luck,

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne


Hello all, 
I have a beginners question about supplies. I have only one style of bobbin 
right now, I don't know what it is called. It has no spangles, a double head
and 
square base (so it doesn't roll too much). I am going to the convention and
have 
Hointon and Withoff classess. 
My list of supplies for Hointon has not arrived yet, but my Withoff one has. It

asks for Binche or Fine Belgium bobbins 40 of them. I am wondering if I will 
absolutely have to purchase new bobbins for this or if mine could be used ( I 
will need the hointon bobbins from what I understand) I am a beginner so the
cost 
of setting up is extraordinary. I would make my own bobbins if I had the time 
and deminsions. (I turn wood on a lathe, but I am not speedy at it). 
I want to purchase a large number of books and I am reeling at the sudden cost.

I have pins, 2 pillows and a picker and pin puller, I even have a magnifier and

sone holders for the bobbins so they don't shift when put away on the pillow. I

have about three books so far, but only on Torchon and Milanese.
Any tips on cost cutting or prioritizing what I need? My husband is near painic

as I start listing what I want. Since I did not know about the conviention till

this year I have not set asside for the cost so spreading out the cost and 
prioritizing is very important for now. 
Also if I have typos, please forgive - I can't find my glasses.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


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