Hi Tamara,
As well as the Moravia linen thaat Patty mentioned there is also linen thread by Goldschild from Switzerland. The one labelled 66/3 is equivalent to 40/3 and comes out at 22 wraps//cm. also a lovely range of colours although I'm not sure how many.
Jean in Cleveland U.K.
On 17 Feb 2004, at 03:49, Tamara P. Duvall wrote:


Gentle Spiders,

I'm working on getting the first of my "Windrose Variations" (Christmas ornaments) into a publish-able format, and have run into a problem... In my usual, long-winded way, let me describe it.

There's not much room for enlarging/reducing of the pricking... The prerequisites are: a) the ornament, as a whole, can't be but *so* big, b) the "base thread" is thicker than the (metallic) worker for the best effect, c) 2-ply is better than 3-ply and linen is better than cotton for the "base thread", d) the threads ought to be easy to obtain, e) we're thinking *colour*.

OK. The metallic is no sweat; several -- easily available, from a multitude of suppliers -- brands can be used. It's the "base thread" that's giving me fits...

My first two (completed; there are a few which had been "ditched" early on <g>) samples were made in Madeira Tanne/Cotona 20/2 cotton. The thread worked very well for size (though the final results are a touch "limp"), but I'm not sure it's still available (the thread came from my "stash"). OTOH, it gave me a point of reference (Brenda Paternoster's "Threads for Lace"); it has a "wrap ratio" of 24, so I thought finding a substitute would be relatively easy...

Not so :)
Remember: I'm looking for *linen* and for a *2-ply* and for *colour*...

The same (24) "wrap" in linen (that I happened to have on hand) is Bockens 50/2. It works up a *little* finer than Madeira Tanne 20, and would, probably, be "the thinnest acceptable". *If* it were available in colours.. So far as I'm aware, it's only available in white.

I had some Bockens 35/2 on hand (lots of lovely colours available, if not in my personal stash <g>), and tried that. At a "20 wrap" it's *a possible*, but on the outermost end of the spectrum; it's almost too thick, which makes the whole difficult to tension (and to get the seed-beads sewn on).

So, what I'm asking is this:

Of all the *2-ply* linen threads listed in Brenda's little book, in the 21-24 "wrap" range of thickness... *Which* are available in colour? And *where* can I (or anyone reading the IOLI Bulletin) get them?

Yours, somewhat bummed out; we had "Presidents' Day" today which, in "real terms" translates to "no mail, no library, no bank service"... And no newspaper, because we get it at the U, and the students are on vaccation (again!). The "no mail" was the hardest blow, however; I'm still waiting for my copy of Lace... :) *On top of which*, I doubt all of our past and present Presidents are all that happy to be celebrated together, like some "Presidential baby mush"... <g>
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia, USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/


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