Dear silent newbees For the silent beginners among the group: Why not post the learning notes (reccommended by Patty Dowden) on the list? Other beginners thus might learn a lot about things they don't bother to ask or even didn't thought of. Don't feel ashamed to warn others for your own mistakes.
To set an example the 4000-pins Torchon sampler pops up again. I'm trying to stay ahead of my students. It appears I discover many mistakes after pulling the pins when it is much to late to redo. It appears to be difficult to see the lace-wood through the pin-trees. I should really take the time to frequently examine my work, peek between the pins if lines of the pattern are visibly at irregular spots, indicating mistakes. I should also use a magnifier to peek at various angles to detect irregularies. It is just a coincidence I'm working the pattern with a much finer thread than my students. But I think I wouldn't have learnt the lesson above with the original thread, so now I can pass on this hard learnt lesson. So that's another lesson: to level your own skils with your students, reduce the size if possible. For that matter I also value the recommendation of Lucie DuFresneto (and experienced it myself) to just prick a pattern to learn. Thus you might not need to do everything your students are doing and still get a better understanding of what they need to do. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]