In a message [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
when what touched off the subject was, first, an objection to being called  
"old," 

Oh dear, I am sorry to have stirred up such a can o' worms.  I have just got 
back from from a wonderful weekend at The Lace Guild convention to find over 
150 posts, largely about the IOLI name.  

But please may I point out that I didn't object, I just wondered *why* we 
were being described as "old" lacers.  

I now accept the fact that the founders were referring to the lace not 
themselves but as that is not the way the phrase is structured, I had read it 
as 
them declaring themselves as old - which very few people ever want to do.  It's 
only people older than yourself who are old.

Jacquie

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