Hi All,

It seems that Devon is probably comparing two contrasting things - the Lace Guild proficiency assessmemts are just that - proficiency assessments, so people have to know what they are supposed to be capable of doing for each level.

The competitions are also just that - competitions, where we are competing for 'best in show' , a red/gold/silver ribbon. Honourable mention etc - so I think in a lot of cases, especially where sometimes the judges of lace classes have absolutely no idea of the difficulty of whatever lace is shown, or the proficiency of an entrant, that judge will just go for whatever pleases him/her the most! I can remember one County Show I went to, many years ago, where a beautifully made and displayed Miss Channer's Mat, came third to a torchon parasol, very small, and a Bedfordshire bookmark! It subsequently caused an outcry in a lot of the local classes and organisations, but any grumbling was too late, and wouldn't have achieved anything!

I have since been of the opinion that, instead of hoping for judges who make lace, and know what to look for, we just enter our lace as an advertisement that lace is alive and well, and out there are classes waiting for the interested onlooker to join.

Carol - in Suffolk UK

On the other hand, the English Lace Guild in its proficiency certifications tells you exactly what skills you need to demonstrate

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