I'll give a try on this. First, the lace shawl on eBay had a strip of machine made picots (little loops) sewn on the edges to imitate the picots on handmade lace that are an extension of the edge stitches. Depending on the lace, the handmade loops can be made with one thread or with two threads twisted together.
Some machine made laces are made with a woven background and these are usually made in quantity and attached together. When they are cut apart, it leaves single thread ends sticking out all around. I don't know of any handmade laces that have single threads sticking out. Bobbin lace is made with pairs, and great care is taken to finish off the ends so they do not stick out. Needlelace techniques hide the thread ends. Alice in Oregon ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Tinney <tinn...@austin.rr.com> This brings up a question that I have had on my mind for a while...... I know that most, if not all, of the lace in my church is machine made. Some of it looks like the pattern was woven and a sizing used to hold it together. No twist, no cross, no knots. The one thing I have wondered about, that I also think I see in the eBay quasi-shawl is that on the edges little threads are sticking out. It is the existence of these threads that make me think that the lace in my church is a simple weave that is trimmed at the end of the manufacturing process. My question is this: Are there any traditional techniques that have these short threads sticking out. I cannot tell about the eBay example, but on the ones in my church these are definitely single cut threads, not at all like a worker thread going around a pin. Any information or resources would be most appreciated. Thank you, Pat T. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brenda Paternoster" <paternos...@appleshack.com> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:58 PM To: "Francis Busschaert" <francis.busscha...@telenet.be> Cc: <lace@arachne.com> Subject: Re: [lace] USA > Hello Francis > > It's not Chantilly > It's not hand made > It's not even big enough to be a shawl. > > It is a machine made scarf - probably Leavers machine. > > Brenda > > On 6 Sep 2009, at 19:53, Francis Busschaert wrote: > >> i m not an expert but if i see those fotograps my little alamr >> senors in my head say NOWAYYYYY >> that is not handmade but ùmachien lace >> >> i know there are some EXPERTS here >> enlighten me please >> >> the abay nr is ebay nr 110428639339 >> >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-SILK-BLONDE-CHANTILLY-LACE-SHAWL-HANDEMBR-8_W0QQitem > Z110428639339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b60f506b&_trksi > d=p3286.c0.m14 > > Brenda in Allhallows > paternos...@appleshack.com > http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
