No idea why this came through so oddly sprinkled with weird symbols but
here it is one more time. If it is still weird I'm sorry.
bobbi
Good morning all. I feel the need to jump in now and hope to help.
The Copenhagen hole that Devon is speaking about is a technique only
(as far as I know?) used in Tonder lace. It is worked on a diamond shaped
pricking and is worked from the top down one side and then down the second
side. I have seen holes worked in half stitch (CT), honeycomb stitch (CTT),
and
linen or cloth stitch (CTC). Each give a totally different effect. My
personal
preference is the honeycomb stitch (CTT). I think that the webbing is more
attractive in CTT.
They can be pinned with the webbing from the CTT or which ever you choose
on the inside (most often) or the webbing on the outside (not so much).
There are samples of this last one in my latest book. (Tallies and Pin
Chains)
For those of you with a copy of the book, on page 76 the holes are worked in
Linen
or cloth stitch (CTC) and pinned on the inside of the hole.
In class we use the honeycomb stitch and pin on the outside. (other than
this
piece!)
The process of doing the hole is the same regardless of how many pins are
on each quarter of the hole. I have seen Copenhagen holes with 4 pins on
each
quarter from top pin to widest point pin up to 7 pins in the same area. The
process is the same. The write up in the last book (mentioned above) I think
is
logical.
Other differences between Bucks Point and Tonder are the way the gimp is
moved in the piece and the way the valleys are worked. Having said that, I
also
think that we want to have rules for all laces. This is always worked this
way and that is always worked that way. I have found through years of
working
with Tonder lace that this is not the case. Sadly, because we are only
dealing
with samples or bits of the laces we have no way of knowing _for sure_ one
way or the other what the thoughts of the designer or the lace maker were.
These two people were not normally the same person. So when I do
reconstructions,
IF I have a sample with more than one repeat of the lace the chances are
good that all of the repeats are different.
Some times drastically, some times very subtlety. But the question is
always:
What is the inspiration of the designer? Or is it the lacemaker that chooses
the right pattern? Is the lacemaker given the pricking and then told to make
it
and she/he gets to choose if that section of diamond shaped hole is a
spider,
a diamond, in half stitch or whole? a Copenhagen hole? So many choices....
And who are we to say that a diamond shape with 5 holes from top pin to
widest
point pin is always a spider? Or a half stitch diamond? or a linen/cloth
stitch diamond?
Or for that matter a Copenhagen hole?
On the design end... once you do a sample of a piece, even torchon lace, if
you look at the
finished piece some times you will choose to make something different in an
area because to your eye it will look better.
My personal opinion of the piece that Devon posted the other day is that
although the head side motif is traditional Tønder that the piece on a
whole is a mix of different laces.
That or it is just very disjointed as a design. We have confirmed that the
head side is in fact
a traditional Tonder design. Pre 1900.
Ok I've blithered on for long enough. Hope this was helpful.
bobbi
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