I think these are what I've been used to call push-ups, which explains how they 
are done - a long tally done with adjacent passive pairs (or leave a centre 
pair unworked for a wider tally) then push it up with a pin and continue 
weaving, so the workers hold it in place.  The rolled tally is rolled by 
twisting one pair (preferably the one without the tally weaver!)round a pin, 
like the first half of a picot, then doing the same with the other pair, other 
end of same pin - probably needs a picture or video to explain, and again the 
workers hold it in place.

The standard advice is to make a push up one and a half times as long as you 
think it should be, the rolled tally needs to be twice as long, another reason 
why the push up is quicker.  They do look different, and sometimes one looks 
better than the other, depends on the pattern - the main thing is not to mix 
them of course.

Their real advantage against overlaid or any other tally or leaf is that the 
pushing or rolling covers a multitude of slips; a pushed upb holly leaf looks 
fine!


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