----- "Evan Prodromou" <[email protected]> wrote:
 
| I sympathize with those people who say that everything should be out
| in
| the open. But I don't feel like it's my decision to make, for those
| folks who do want to have control over who reads what they're doing.

By agreeing that your submissions are licensed under creative commons at 
registration time, aren't you effectively forfeiting any expectation of privacy 
anyway?  Although any one federated, or internal and private, install doesn't 
necessarily have to require CC for user submissions.  Certain privacy features 
may only make sense in non-federated servers.

| The problem I have with privacy is implementation. First, there's the
| problem of federation. If you post a private notice on my server, and
| I
| pass it to another server for a subscriber there, and that server on
| purpose or by accident leaks your private notice (or uses it for
| nefarious purposes), that's a real problem. To be fair, we accept
| this
| risk pretty normally in using email, but I'm still concerned about
| it.

Email is designed around delivery to one while OMB is concerned with broadcast 
to many.  I agree, targeted broadcasting is prone to leakage.  

Although... just as email users can use public/private key crypto to ensure 
privacy and authenticity, there's no reason two OMB users couldn't do the same. 
 They could do it manually right now.  Encrypt the message with the recipient's 
public key, dent it publicly, then the recipient gets the message and decrypts 
with their private key.  

This could be implemented as part of laconica and is probably the only way to 
really guarantee privacy and authenticity.  The user's local server could store 
the keys (I'm assuming the local server is trusted) and publish the users 
public key at a specific URL.  Private keys could be autogenerated or uploaded.

Um, that was a random tangent and complicates things beyond all belief.  But I 
might just send a few messages back and forth to someone using pgp just for fun.

| All of which is to say: not enough people seem to really want private
| notices for me to my all my brainpower into making it happen. This
| will
| probably not be the case with groups; a lot of people seem to want
| privacy there. 

Perhaps *local only groups* with privacy would be a functional compromise and 
sidestep all the federation issues for now.

Ahoy,
Jason
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