On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 01:20 -0400, Ben Taylor wrote:
> Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 21:49 -0700, Thomas Preisler wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm buying a new laptop to run Open Solaris on and wonder if anyone can 
> >> recommend a particular brand/model? How about a Sony Vaio VGN-SZ645P4? It 
> >> seems to work well with Nevada build #86.
> >>
> >>     
> > I'm getting a Thinkpad T61p (hopefully tomorrow), which apparently runs
> > Linux/OpenSolaris/etc fairly well. personally, I wouldn't touch a vaio
> > if it were the last computer on earth - chocked to the brim with
> > proprietary garbage, and certaintity something will go wrong.
> >
> >   
> +1 about the Vaio.
> 
> here's my punchlist of things to look for:
> 
> 1) NVidia graphics.  you can find some laptops like Asus and
>     Alienware with highend 7950 and 8800 chipsets.  You can
>     also find things like the 6150M, 7150M and some 8x00m
>     chipsets.   Then Intel.   ATI is starting to get good support
>     from the radeon driver and some advanced chipsets
>     (R500-R600) are getting support from the radeonhd
>     driver (and I hear that our xf86-ati driver is pulling some
>     of that support as well, given that Suse is driving
>     radeonhd and Redhat is doing ati...) but R500-600 is
>     just getting some 2d acceleration, and 3d is probably
>     some months off.

The one bundled with the one I've ordered ( Thinkpad t61p 6457-C74,
which has a Quadro - apparently it runs pretty well; from what I
understand the universities and lenovo in NZ did a deal in terms of a
product line that suited the needs of students - the t61p being popular
with engineers; especially those who run Linux/UNIX (which funny enough,
when I bought it and found I was going to run OpenSolaris, they thought
I was an engineer - I'm studying Philosophy + Religious Studies).

> 2) Wifi: Atheros or Intel 4965.  Avoid Broadcom like the plague

Agreed. Not just because of the fact that they refuse to work with the
opensource community - their products are just plain crappy; those who
are currently having problems with their MacBook and lack of wireless
stability - the new wireless chip is Broadcom, before that, they used to
use Atheros.

Intel 4965 looks pretty good; I'm running a Atheros based PCI card in my
desktop - Netgear WPN311; works wonderfully; not a single dropped
connection.

On the topic of wireless networking  - is there an eta on the next phase
of nwam being updated? its a nightmare when one changes the router
password and one is forced to re-install the whole operating system
because there is no way to remove the old setting for the router.

> 3) Intel Pro/1000, Realtek 8169, or other GigE parts supported
>     by Solaris/OpenSolaris or Murayama Masayuki.
>     Attansic is not supported.  Avoid this if at all possible.

Personally I'd go 100% Intel all the way; avoid any company that uses
frankenstein combinations of hardware.

> 4) Sound.  if it's not supported, there's likely support
>     to be found in 4Front's OpenSound System
> 
> The only thing I'm not really clear on is how good our SATA
> support is with laptops, as more and more laptops are rolling
> out with SATA disks.  The SATA controller support list
> is not something I've really looked over.

Anything intel is pretty much supported - as long as one doesn't go and
choose something that is weird and exotic, it should work.

Matthew


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