Yes, I have the design whitespace issue fairly well beaten into me by  
Neil.

But is it true you can never have too much whitespace?  Why do we use  
only 4 spaces?  Why not 8, or 80?  I can see that 1 is not visually  
distinct, but in a fixed width font, 2 seems enough.  And if we  
enforce 80 cols, 4 can start to seem wasteful.  There are deeply  
nested blocks in the LFC where the lines get _very_ short because of  
the 4-space indent.

Now that we are moving to class declarations, your function body  
starts out with 2 levels of indentation, add a little control flow,  
and before you know it, you have less than 50 chars left on your line...

On 2006-07-28, at 00:33 EDT, Sarah Allen wrote:

> my $.02...
>
> I like 4 spaces, but maybe that's just because Adam insisted upon  
> in at the beginning of time and I've just gotten used to it.   
> Besides whitespace is nice, not wasteful -- ask any designer you know.
>
> I'm also for 80col -- I like having room for two pages side by side  
> on my wide screen.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:09 AM, Daniel Salama wrote:
>
>> I use Emacs to develop Laszlo apps and really like the automatic  
>> indentation I get when using nxml mode. I like the fact that line  
>> breaks are aligned after the tag name so all beginning attributes  
>> are aligned and that's usually after the 2nd column since tag  
>> names are themselves longer than 2 columns.
>>
>> I think 4 spaces is wasteful. I like 2 spaces. I also would like  
>> to limit page width to, at most, 80 cols. I don't care about the  
>> 1280. There is still a very large hacker community that sticks to  
>> the 80 cols because of compatibility across systems and editors.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents :)
>>
>> - Daniel
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2006, at 1:50 PM, P T Withington wrote:
>>
>>> Scott, please explain yourself.  4 seems wasteful.
>>>
>>> Long lines are considered harmful, no matter how wide your average
>>> screen.  Have you read the Times lately?
>>>
>>> On 2006-07-25, at 13:36 EDT, Benjamin Shine wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4! 4! 4!
>>>> Which I only say after having Scott slap me around repeatedly for
>>>> doing it wrong.
>>>> I used to be into 3, myself.
>>>> While we're at it, DARE WE come up with a line length recommended
>>>> limit? Pablo uses
>>>> 80 and maybe you hardcore oldskoolers do, but please, have you seen
>>>> the size of the standard screen lately? Show me a coder who doesn't
>>>> have at least 1280 across and I'll show you... um.
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 25, 2006, at 7:05 AM, P T Withington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After the 'grand class conversion', Phil and I plan to re- 
>>>>> indent the
>>>>> LFC sources.  [Right now Phil is making the conversion trying to
>>>>> minimize the whitespace changes to make it easy to review.   
>>>>> Once we
>>>>> have tested and verified that it all works, we plan to re-indent.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking over the LFC sources, we have some code that is  
>>>>> indented with
>>>>> 4 spaces and some with 2.  Do we care?  My personal preference  
>>>>> is 2
>>>>> -- it's enough to be visually distinct without being wasteful.  
>>>>> But most of the sources (and apparently most editors) default to
>>>>> 4.  We
>>>>> have a change to make things uniform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vote your choice today!
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