I wonder if the servlet container is smart enough to notice that if
the responding servlet indicates a "gzip" encoding in its header, that
it will not try to compress it again as it send s it.



On 11/13/06, Henry Minsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It does seem like it is asking for trouble.

On 11/13/06, P T Withington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That doesn't make sense to me.
>
> Isn't compression for DHTML between the web server and the web
> client?  If we do compression in our applet, what happens when
> someone turns on compression in their container?  Double compression,
> and lossage?
>
> I think I can see it made sense to do compression in our applet for
> swf because we were talking to a plug-in, not to a web server.
>
> But, what happens when we deliver a compressed swf via a web server
> that is set to do compression?  Does the swf get recompressed
> (wasting cpu cycles on both the client and the server)?
>
> On 2006-11-13, at 21:24 EST, David Temkin wrote:
>
> > In the case that it's a server-deployed app, we should handle this
> > ourselves inside of LPS (just as we did for SWF5 apps that were
> > gzipped). It's likely that there is code (now defunct) that could
> > do this, including caching the compressed app and serving it up
> > with the correct headers.
> >
> > In the case that it's a SOLO app, we should document how to do this
> > with the Apache Web Server or similar.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 13, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Benjamin Shine wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> It would be ever so nice if the platform could handle this
> >> transparently for us, without relying on application container
> >> configuration.
> >>
> >> On Nov 13, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Henry Minsky wrote:
> >>
> >>> here's a note I sent in March with a config for tomcat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Instructions:
> >>>
> >>> Restart the Tomcat, and then you can see if it is working by
> >>> clearing
> >>> the browser cache, and
> >>> loading the demo dhtml app.  In LiveHTTPHeaders in Firefox you
> >>> should
> >>> see headers like this
> >>>
> >>> GET /lps-legals/lps/includes/lfc/lzdataset.js HTTP/1.1
> >>> Host: localhost:8080
> >>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
> >>> rv:1.8.0.1) Gecko/20060111 Firefox/1.5.0.1
> >>> Accept: */*
> >>> Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
> >>> Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
> >>> Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
> >>> Keep-Alive: 300
> >>> Connection: keep-alive
> >>> Referer: http://localhost:8080/lps-legals/apps/et/app.lzx?
> >>> lzt=dhtml&debug=y&lzr=dhtml
> >>>
> >>> HTTP/1.x 200 OK
> >>> Etag: W/"12841-1141441325754"
> >>> Last-Modified: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 03:02:05 GMT
> >>> Content-Type: text/javascript
> >>> Transfer-Encoding: chunked
> >>> Content-Encoding: gzip
> >>> Vary: Accept-Encoding
> >>> Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 22:49:45 GMT
> >>> Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> server.xml:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  <Service name="Catalina">
> >>>    <Connector acceptCount="100" connectionTimeout="20000"
> >>> disableUploadTimeout="true" port="8080" redirectPort="8443"
> >>>
> >>>               compression="on"
> >>>               compressionMinSize="2048"
> >>>               noCompressionUserAgents="gozilla, traviata"
> >>>               compressableMimeType="text/html,text/xml,text/
> >>> javascript,application/x-javascript,application/javascript"
> >>>>
> >>>    </Connector>
> >>>    <Connector acceptCount="100" disableUploadTimeout="true"
> >>> port="8443" scheme="https" secure="true" sslProtocol="TLS"
> >>> keystoreFile="conf/lzkeystore" keystorePass="changeit"
> >>>               compression="on"
> >>>               compressionMinSize="2048"
> >>>               noCompressionUserAgents="gozilla, traviata"
> >>>               compressableMimeType="text/html,text/xml,text/
> >>> javascript,application/x-javascript,application/javascript"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>    </Connector>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/13/06, David Temkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> When documenting this, we need to discuss, right up front, the
> >>>> importance of having gzip compression switched on for the HTTP
> >>>> server. There is an enormous size difference between compressed and
> >>>> uncompressed, and this isn't an issue for SWF, which has internal
> >>>> gzip compression.
> >>>>
> >>>> When serving from LPS, the Javascript should be automatically
> >>>> gzipped. It is, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> - D.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Henry Minsky wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Can anyone tell me what they think is required for DHTML SOLO
> >>>> deploy?
> >>>> > That is, what
> >>>> > auxiliary include files are needed?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Since we serve up the LFC and the app as separate files in
> >>>> DHTML, the
> >>>> > new SOLO wizard will at least have to write out copies of
> >>>> static files
> >>>> > for these.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > For reference the current swf solo wizard makes
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 1) recursive copy of all files in the directory in which the app
> >>>> > resides, and also includes
> >>>> > 2) An html wrapper file (app.swf.html)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 3) these include files
> >>>> >    filenames.add("lps/includes/embed.js");
> >>>> >     filenames.add("lps/includes/h.html");
> >>>> >     filenames.add("lps/includes/h.swf");
> >>>> >     filenames.add("lps/includes/vbembed.js");
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I will make a master list of what needs to be packaged up, and
> >>>> make
> >>>> > fork a version of the
> >>>> > SWF solo deployment tool for DHTML.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Henry Minsky
> >>>> > Software Architect
> >>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Henry Minsky
> >>> Software Architect
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >
>
>


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