On 17 November 2010 15:07, Deryck Hodge <[email protected]> wrote: ... > Also, we have an inconsistent ui and limited, simple ajax controls > because we don't have a lot of knowledge on the team for this type > of development and we haven't gotten serious about standardizing how > we do UI development.
I avoid some of the js/ajax controls in Launchpad because of that. I almost always use the bugtask edit drop-down form instead of the status/importance/milestone pickers. If I'm editing more than one field it's quicker, and I have a perception of greater reliability from ye olde form. On Launchpad, I think merge proposals are probably the place where js/ajax works most predictably and reliably, and I feel comfortable there. I suppose my point is twofold: - Adding js/ajax doesn't necessarily make things better. - If a js/ajax interaction is jarring in any way (for example, not updating all related/dependent parts of a page) then things are often worse than without the js/ajax interaction. > I continue to hear resistance from developers about having to > develop UI skills. Despite all the progress we've made on UI in > Launchpad, there is still a long way to go in terms of people's > skill in this area and easy of development. I have gotten a buzz from doing UI stuff with js/ajax in the past, before becoming a Launchpad developer, but I have grown an aversion to it since then. It's way too painful, especially compared to the non-js/ajax way of doing things in Launchpad, which already isn't a walk in the park. Put another way, it's probably not just me who likes UI/js/ajax work in principle, but shys away from it now because the threshold for feeling productive is much too high. ... > Perhaps we need a team within lp like the application-based teams, > which is made up of people who care about UI and good JS > development, and who are charged with cleaning up the mess we have > made. :-) I think this idea has merit, though perhaps the fact that I'm thinking that is an indicator of quite how difficult it is to work on UI in Launchpad. YUI+Windmill has made our js/ajax development sufficiently complex that it needs full-time (or very passionate) developers to properly engage in it. It is a serious deterrent for those of us who want to dip in and get something done. Gavin. _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
