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> questions (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)> 2. Re: PPA feedback / questions
> (Christian Robottom Reis)> 3. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Joseph Price)> 4.
> Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah Hobbs)> 5. Re: PPA feedback / questions
> (Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia)> 6. Re: PPA feedback / questions (Sarah
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> Message: 1> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:17:55 -0500> From: Pedro Alejandro
> Lopez-Valencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback / questions>
> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 22:52 +1100, Sarah Hobbs
> wrote:> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> > Hash: SHA1> > > > Pedro
> Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:> > > * Add universe/blah to the Section(s) in
> debian/control. (No luck trying> > > with multiverse, but I haven't found a
> explicit warning about these> > > though, so my vmware-package crossport
> ended up in main, unsightly even> > > if it didn't work for some reason I
> have found time to debug).> > > > > > > This is now unneeded - the components
> in PPAs were blown away a few> > releases ago, and everything gets put into
> 'main'. However, this 'main'> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat
> covered in the quick start> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that
> ppa main != ubuntu main.> > > > Hobbsee> > Thats good to known. BTW, would
> you care to check why I was banned from> #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the
> same day last time we exchanged in IRC> [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I
> was sleepy at the time but whoever> did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I
> won't talk about #ubuntu-es,> that channel is like a personal club if still
> handled by the pelicano> character.> > Cheers> > Alejo > > > > >
> ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:44:21
> -0200> From: Christian Robottom Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: PPA
> feedback / questions> To: Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Shuttleworth>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Celso Providelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Cc:
> [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> > On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at
> 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:> > This is now unneeded - the components
> in PPAs were blown away a few> > releases ago, and everything gets put into
> 'main'. However, this 'main'> > is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat
> covered in the quick start> > guide, although it does not explicitly say that
> ppa main != ubuntu main.> > We could rename main to only or single or
> something, for PPAs, perhaps.> It might still be confusing though.> > Hmmm.
> We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the> differentiating
> mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?> -- > Christian Robottom
> Reis | http://async.com.br/~kiko/ | [+55 16] 3376 0125> > > >
> ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:33:14
> +0000> From: Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback /
> questions> To: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,>
> [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 07:17 -0500, Pedro
> Alejandro Lopez-Valencia wrote:> > BTW, would you care to check why I was
> banned from> > #ubuntu+1 (that was the later the same day last time we
> exchanged in IRC> > [I'm vorbote in Freenode])I concede I was sleepy at the
> time but whoever> > did it doesn't deserve oprator status (I won't talk about
> #ubuntu-es,> > that channel is like a personal club if still handled by the
> pelicano> > character.> > > > Cheers> > > > Alejo > Please feel free to come
> into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss> this.> > Pricey> > > >
> ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:30:10
> +1100> From: Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback /
> questions> To: Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Cc: Celso Providelo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,> [email protected]> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > -----BEGIN
> PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> Hash: SHA1> > Mark Shuttleworth wrote:> > Christian
> Robottom Reis wrote:> >> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 10:52:27PM +1100, Sarah
> Hobbs wrote:> >> > >>> This is now unneeded - the components in PPAs were
> blown away a few> >>> releases ago, and everything gets put into 'main'.
> However, this 'main'> >>> is not like ubuntu 'main'. This is somewhat covered
> in the quick start> >>> guide, although it does not explicitly say that ppa
> main != ubuntu main.> >>> > >>> >> We could rename main to only or single or
> something, for PPAs, perhaps.> >> It might still be confusing though.> >>> >>
> Hmmm. We could also call the component "ppa" and use that as the> >>
> differentiating mechanism to Ubuntu primary. Is that a crazy idea?> >> > >
> I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional complexity for new users and> >
> developers. Pushing everything to main simplifies things for people who> >
> don't know about components, making it a new component could have the> >
> opposite effect.> > > However, clearly a lot of people are used to having
> multiple components,> and so get confused about why the package that is
> normally in universe,> in the ubuntu repositories, shows up in main now. This
> can probably be> solved with better documentation.> > Hobbsee> -----BEGIN PGP
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> ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:57:32
> -0500> From: Pedro Alejandro Lopez-Valencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re:
> PPA feedback / questions> To: Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Cc:
> Celso Providelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sarah Hobbs> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain> > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 14:53 +0000, Mark
> Shuttleworth wrote:> > > > > I'd prefer that PPAs aren't additional
> complexity for new users and> > developers. Pushing everything to main
> simplifies things for people> > who don't know about components, making it a
> new component could have> > the opposite effect.> > I agree that simplicity
> is best, but main does have a connotation of> official support that might
> cause wrong assumptions among those people> that use the material we place in
> our ppas but don't know the process> involved in creating such.> > > > > >
> ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:36:54
> +1100> From: Sarah Hobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Subject: Re: PPA feedback /
> questions> To: Joseph Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Cc:
> [email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED
> MESSAGE-----> Hash: SHA1> > Joseph Price wrote:> > Please feel free to come
> into #ubuntu-ops on irc.freenode.net to discuss> > this.> > > > Pricey> > >
> Already resolved via private email, thanks.> > Hobbsee> -----BEGIN PGP
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