[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:
Hi Jackie,
LOL...you're on a roll today! This reminds me of a movie I just saw.
Titled "The Big Lebowski". It is another hilarious Coen brothers movie.
Your comment about a person behaving any way he wants reminded me of the
John Goodman character in the movie, especially a scene where he loses it
in a coffee shop and is warned that he would be asked to leave. Great
fun! In fact, that entire character Goodman plays reminds me
of..........oh well, I probably shouldn't delve into it too far, if you
know what I mean. :)
Bill
On Fri, 03 Apr 1998 04:49:57 -0600 Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
>Terry
>
>I am truly impressed (Yawn) by your spouting of philosophical
>arguments in defending
>your position and your throwing up of smokescreens (ho, hum). I
>especially like you
>telling me my assumptions of why I post something. It seems I believe
>that the
>courts are the ultimate truth, from what you write. Oh well, believe
>what you wish.
>
>TBO, I agree you can call anyone anything you want. And you are free
>to suffer the
>consequences if you should find yourself in a position in which you
>foolishly feel
>that is your right and no one can do anything about it.
>
>Now, I don't know about you but I have work to do and posts worth
>reading. So I
>guess I am getting bored "playing" with someone that seems to believe
>the only
>correct evidence is the evidence that support's one's beliefs. Of
>course, so far
>your evidence consists of a 1940s death penalty to support your claim
>that we give
>children the death penalty; an amicus brief in a case in which the
>judges did not
>buy into the arguments; a case that in no way resembles the case under
>discussion;
>and your argument that the evidence shows Thomas is a perjuror. So I
>guess I will
>not "play" around anymore with you.
>
>jackief
>
>jackief
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>> Hi Jackie
>>
>> >> I don't always bother acknowledging epistemological arguments
>about the
>> >> nature of truth when stating facts.
>> >
>> >Now this sentence is great--truth and facts in the same breath.
>The fact is:
>> >Thomas was not convicted of perjury therefore he can not be called
>a
>> perjuror >except by silly people who think because a word may be
>similar it
>> is the same >thing.
>>
>> The fact is Thomas can be called anything by any American. The
>truth is
>> what it is independent of what anybody says it is and no American is
>banned
>> from speaking truth or lies as they choose when not in violation of
>legislation.
>>
>> What in the name of God makes you think a court is the repository of
>> Ultimate Truth? It matters not a whit what a court finds as far as
>the
>> truth is concerned. If an effort is made to find the truth by
>anyone or any
>> group the results may be judged to approximate the truth by the
>quality of
>> that effort and the evidence capable of assessment. If a court
>truly
>> presents a rational case based on evidence we can hope it has found
>the truth.
>>
>> Pray tell what manner of argument invalidates evidence about Thomas'
>perjury
>> but lets us believe the earth is round or Al Capone was a racketeer?
> This
>> should be a whole new field of philosophy.
>>
>> You passed the test. Your overhelming modesty is charming but you
>need not
>> even read the test to know the answers. It is the nature of a
>priori
>> knowledge. Congratulations. Des Cartes would be astonished at your
>> brilliant addition to his singularity: "I am even if I don't think."
>>
>> >Your
>> >belief and your right to say that you believe he is a perjuror is
>fine. I
>> hope you
>> >don't call him a perjuror in the wrong place though or you might be
>facing
>> a little
>> >problem.
>> >
>> >> I will admit we cannot fully know the
>> >> earth is round, that Al Capone was a racketeer and that Clarence
>Thomas is a
>> >> perjurer. Sometimes close is good enough.
>> >
>> >I believe there is empirical evidence that the earth is more round
>than
>> flat and I
>> >believe Capone was convicted of a crime and there are also I
>believe facts
>> that show
>> >him to be a racketeer. Clarence Thomas does not fit into this
>> category--there are
>> >no facts to support this, only your belief based on the fact he
>wouldn't
>> take a lie
>> >detector and Anita did.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Your modesty is enchanting but your flawless performance on the
>test has to
>> >> be acknowledged by your admission you read it
>> >
>> >LOL--I never said I read it, merely that I flunked it. : ). So
>again you
>> made a
>> >subjective decision.
>> >
>> >> . We know this with Cartesian
>> >> certainty because it is obvious you think despite your efforts to
>obscure
>> >> that fact.
>> >
>> >ROTF!! That is about as impressive as you know what. jackief
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Terry
>> >> >
>> >> >I really don't know where you are coming from--I said I
>believed--not
>> that he
>> >> >was--but that I believed was a liar. Nowhere did I acknowledge
>or say
>> he was a
>> >> >perjuror. Yes you are free to say any ole thing you want, but
>when you are
>> >> >discussing something to provide evidence for your view, you
>don't state as
>> >> a fact
>> >> >that the man was a perjuror. In a discussion like this,
>perjuror has a
>> whole
>> >> >different meaning.
>> >> >
>> >> >LOL--that is why I flunked your test--the decision on whether I
>passed or
>> >> not was
>> >> >yours to make--purely a subjective decision, I would say. But I
>believed I
>> >> flunked,
>> >> >therefore because I believed that was the truth, I am telling
>the truth
>> >> when I say I
>> >> >flunked. Sorry a score of -0.
>> >> >
>> >> >jackief
>> >> >
>> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Jackie,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is nothing in our tradition or Constitution that
>requires that
>> we not
>> >> >> speak plainly. If I choose to call Al Capone a racketeer,
>Andrew
>> Cunanan a
>> >> >> serial murderer, Clarence Thomas a perjurer, Bill Clinton an
>adulterer
>> it is
>> >> >> idiocy to claim I am doing something wrong because they were
>never
>> tried and
>> >> >> convicted of these things. A perjurer is a felon who lies
>under oath
>> about
>> >> >> a material matter. Justice Thomas did that as you
>acknowledge. Why should
>> >> >> we not speak plainly? If he feels he is grievously wronged he
>can sue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How would you know you flunked the test if you did not know
>the
>> answers? I
>> >> >> congratulate you on 100%.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >In the sociology room the children learn
>> >> >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology
>Room"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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>> >> >> Best, Terry
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's
>Dictionary
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>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >In the sociology room the children learn
>> >> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective
>> >> >
>> >> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology
>Room"
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >> Best, Terry
>> >>
>> >> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's
>Dictionary
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>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >In the sociology room the children learn
>> >that even dreams are colored by your perspective
>> >
>> >I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room"
>> >
>> >
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>> Best, Terry
>>
>> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law" - The Devil's
>Dictionary
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>
>--
>In the sociology room the children learn
>that even dreams are colored by your perspective
>
>I toss and turn all night. Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room"
>
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