On 29/07/2010 14:26, Juha Manninen wrote:
Ok,
we had a Skype phone+chat session with my friend again trying to
install Lazarus, this time on a Windows XP laptop. I thought it must
be an easy task and we are done quickly. I was wrong again!
He managed to install Lazarus by himself. So yes, it is easy to
install but read on... First he made a directory for my program under
C:\. Then he opened the project with Lazarus. Everything looked good.
Then he clicked "Run" button --> "cannot write to directory lib" ...
or something. Apparently he did't have enough rights for the folder.
But now, why was he able to create the folder through "My Computer" if
he has no rights for it? I just don't know Windows enough to
understand it.
....
I admit that the installation is easy but the result was a broken
system so it doesn't help much.
So it isn't about the installer => it is about the space-in-path problem
(which caused the permission issue, because he couldn't use the "normal"
location , in his user directory/
Anyway let me start a bit different => I first used Lazarus maybe 2 or 3
years back => never encountered any of those issues (but I do today know
they exist, and I do not deny them).
But why is that I didn't encounter them?
- Well first of all: Long before I ever heard of Lazarus, I started to
use windows only as Admin user. Because when ever I tried otherwise It
wouldn't be a week, until I run into some issue, that was cause by not
being admin.
In a corporate environment, where you use no more than 3 or 4 fixed
applications, and where the company admin comes by every no and then,
logs in as admin, and updates your system => you the user can work as user.
At home, where I must admin my system myself => that just doesn't cut it.
-2nd since it is a single user system, I always create my c:\data
folder and thats where I work. It's too long back, I don't know when and
why I stopped using the user dir.
So yes, I am not your average user, but windows got me there, long
before I knew Lazarus. So I cant blame Lazarus for the problems I have
with windows...
Anyway, as I said the problem is caused by the space-in-path issue,
solve this, then we can use C:program files./lazarus (even with the
current installer), and then the problem is gone.
I remember there wher mail-threads about that, and why it wasn't that
easy, and all that => but it's to long back, I don't know the details
anymore.
Repeating your quote:
I admit that the installation is easy but the result was a broken
system so it doesn't help much.
How to you fix this with a different installer, that creates the same
broken result?
Martin
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