> > And FPC, too bad KOL is win32 specific, if would have solved the
> > eternal "huge executable" discussion.
True..
Someone has done work to get KOL working on Kylix, but I've never used or tried
Kylix.. so I
don't know what size the KOL apps turn out to be. Plus, they are done with QT.
There is also light Pascal toolkit which I have tried - it makes 300kb-400kb
executables on
linux and windows. But Mac and other platforms? I don't know.
I figured we could at least build tools to help make developing KOL and lptk
applications
HALF visual with some sort of plug-in to lazarus. i.e. even in text editors,
you can do a
bit of what I call visual HTML editing with some nice toolbar widgets. Not 100
percent
visual, but better than just doing it all by hand.
And even so, you could still create a 100 percent visual KOL development in
lazarus, with a
plug in. Since KOL uses include files to create the components on the fly at
run time, there
is no "lfm" or "dfm" stored in the executable. This means that all that needs
to be created,
is a visual widget that inserts text into the include file in the appropriate
places (as
opposed to Delphi that includes the DFM in the exe).
Maybe light Pascal toolkit won't work with the native lazarus designer, but
people could
still make tools (plugins) that assist making light Pascal toolkit
applications. I think an
include file setup would work with light Pascal toolkit too, like with KOL. All
components
that are created on application loading, are done via an include file. This
hides the
component creation from the developer in the include file (as a DFM/LFM does) ,
but yet it
also let's the developer peak in and see how the components are being created
via the
include file. With this extra knowledge, the developer can now see how the
internals of the
visual IDE actually work, and how the components are truly created on the fly.
Whereas
dfm/lfm are kind of blackbox magic that is just done for you without you ever
seeing how
(unless of course you look into the source codes of lazarus IDE).
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