Luis.F.Correia wrote: > Hi! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Natanael Copa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <snip> > >>> As a conclusion, i'm looking forward to it. >> Meanwhile, someone else has offered me hosting and has >> already set up a mediawiki and started to add pages there... >> >> Even If I don't join LEAF yet, I am willing to cooperate, >> share experiences etc. > > I'm glad to hear that! > >>> Maybe you'll come up with solutions that bypass the >> problems we have >>> had in the past while testing the 2.6 kernel series. >>> And if still fits on a floppy that is a big plus. >> Exactly what problems did you have with the 2.6 kernel? > > Besides being huge ?
I compiled practically everything as modules (even the keyboard drivers which gave me some problems when I forgot to add them (or their dependencies) on the initramfs) I had to compile a special version of busybox that only had the absolutely necessary applets to load drivers, unpack the alpinebase.tar.gz (equivalent to root.lrp) where a more complete busybox lives. That way I am able to boot from a 1.44MB floppy. > Well, the decisions of initrd vs initramfs vs romfs vs how should > the initial boot 'thing' be backed up. In Alpine, its not backed up. Its readonly. The only drivers included in the initramfs are the the ones that are needed to find the base package (root.lrp) The base package is responsible for autodetecting the rest of the hardware, pull in the needed runtime packages + local configuration overlay, and start the services. There is no need to back up the initial boot 'thing'. (mostly because I can mount a cdrom and "ls -n /media/cdrom/modules /lib/" and then do traditional coldplugging/autodetection) > The usefulness of 2.6 kernel in embedded environments like ours. udev/hotplugging? newer drivers/hardware support? virtualization? (xen stuff) -Os compilation? the 2.6 kernel has its own subsection for embedded. (but I got stability problems when playing there) > Which would conclude to mostly being design decisions, not a true > problem. Like the package manager. > I personally think as 2.6 as a still-in-development kernel, with > way too much stuff going on to be considered a stable platform. True, but thats also the reason it has such huge mindshare if you compare to BSD. (which is much more stable platform) > And I speak against myself, as i'm involved with it in another > project, the rt2x00 wireless kernel driver. :) Cool! I have such a card and I use the rt2500 driver. The latest Alpine ISO should autodetect it for you when you boot it. > But don't let my words or thoughs cloud your judgement, prepare > something and i'll test and comment. Looks like Alpine will be hosted on http://alpine.cinematicnetworks.com for a while > Luis Correia > Bering uClibc Team Member Thanks for your feedback. -- Natanael Copa ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
