Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010, 19:56:41 schrieb Andrew: > 30.10.2010 20:37, KP Kirchdoerfer пишет: > > Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010, 19:19:03 schrieb Andrew: > >> 30.10.2010 19:45, KP Kirchdoerfer пишет: > >>> What about the kernel?? > >>> kp > >> > >> IMHO we need to provide different kernels; one - for legacy i486 or > >> Geode (or even separate kernels), and one - with SMP, more than 4GB > >> memory support (at least - for PAE enabling, for NX bit) for PentiumII > >> or higher. > > > > I agree, but IMHO it's a long/middle term goal (beta2 or 3). > > To get a beta 1 done I think a generic kernel based on the 486 processor > > will be enough for a start (the Bering-uClibc series worked out well, > > with only one kernel - no objection, if we improve it during the release > > cycle). > > > > I believe the main target for beta1 is to detect remaining bugs and to > > provide a proof-of-concept (or slightly more - I run Bering-uClibc4 for > > weeks in production). > > > > Different kernels are nice-to-have, but IMHO it requires a lot more work, > > thoughts and testing - and esp. for testing, users who started to use > > Bering- uClibc4 (with the first beta). > > > > kp > > It isn't too hard to built some packages for different kernel arch > without deep config cleaning (just one like current i686 with SMP but > possible with 64GB RAM support - for PAE and dependent NX bit support, > and one generic i486 w/o SMP - like your), later we can do clean-up. 1st > kernel will be very suitable for ISPs (like as own company), and 2nd > kernel - for small devices like Alix board. I think that enough ISPs > needed something like this - and some of them tried to develop their own > distro (for ex., GlobalOS by nuclearcat - which isn't modular, is huge > comparable to Bering-uClibc, has no documentation except one very tine > howto page + forum thread, and it's configs are poor). > > Also, i686 SMP kernel is tested and looks stable (i use it under enough > heavy loads - after GCC update to 4.4.5 no troubles noticed), i486 - > even still not assembled.
Andrew; no doubt that different kernels and esp. a fully-686-SMP-"whatever"-optimized one are a huge benefit. I also like the Geode enhancements for the Alix system I use. I don't know how easy it'll be to build different kernels (and related packages) with buildtool yet and how to provide, just never done that before. I also understand that your 686 kernel seems as well tested as the geode one. My main point is that we should start with a kernel for beta1, that anyone can use, regardless the processor he runs LEAF - the most common denominator. And to walk from there to more special kernels later. That way the user base, who can testdrive beta1 would be as great as possible. A beta1 that just runs out of the box for a 686 processor sounds to me to unnecessarily restrict the possible user base. kp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev _______________________________________________ leaf-devel mailing list leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-devel
