At 11:06 PM 6/18/01 -0500, NOC wrote:
> Well, I hate to say it... but the daemons have just gotten to big
>to keep updated with a floppy based router. There is NO way I can
>get the basics on a single floppy (sshd, telnet, psentry) and have
>the thing boot. My drive just doesnt like the larger floppies.
Depends on your definition of "the basics". Personally, I wouldn't include
telnet on that list, and I manage well enough without psentry. I usually run
1.68 MB floppies these days, but I *think* I could get a carefully selected
set of "the basics" on a 1.44 if I really had to.
> The only sshd, for instance, that I can get to fit is 1.2.26
>or something like that. I cant leave my network open by using
>using a daemon that may have a security hole.
Well, that concern certainly reinforces what I suggested above -- don't
include telnet on the router. It's hardly one of "the basics" any more, not
with the more secure ssh available. And its unencrypted communications
channel certainly has more of a security hole than *any* version of sshd
might present.
> So, am I forced, with the masses, to get a hardware router? I find
>it hard to believe that they could be any more secure....
Me too ... but you won't find any "hardware router" (none I can think of,
anyway) with ssh-based command-line configuration, or anything comparably
secure. So if that's your standard (and I think it *should* be your
standard, personally), you have to look to other options. Possibilities:
1. Replace your drive with one that does "like" superformatted floppies.
Many of us use them routinely, so while your problem isn't unique, neither
is it commonly true of floppy drives. New drives only cost about $10 in my
area, so this is likely to be an inexpensive solution. (BTW, your problem
may be the controlle or even the disks, not the drive ... how much have you
actually experimented to isolate the problem?)
2. Go to a 2-floppy-drive setup. I know Oxygen is set up to use 2 floppies
if they are present; I'm not sure about EigerStein (LRP 2.9.8 isn't, though
older LRPs had a 2-drive add-in available).
3. Use a small hard disk, or a superdrive, or a ZIP drive, or a solid-state
disk emulator like a JumpTec or a DiskOnChip. Which will work for you
depends on what your hardware/BIOS supports and what is available wherever
you are located at modest cost.
You can even set up a standard Linux distribution (like Debian Potato) to
work as a router, using a relatively old computer (486/40, 16 megs RAM, 40
meg hard disk, for example)and a modest size hard disk. I've gotten Debian
down to 20 megs of filesystem space for a dedicated router, and I could do
better if I needed to. Not to discourage you from using LEAF, but there are
decent Linux alternatives even if Oxygen, EigerStein, or LRP don't suit your
specific needs.
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