Hi Tim,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tim Wegner
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2001 8:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Leaf-user] What exactly is the uplink port?
> 
> 
> I am a happy EigerStein user + Seawall user. I now have an 
> increasing "farm" of various boxes behind my firewall/router that 
> form my Leaf experimental testbed.
> 
> Here's what I'm sure is a Newbie question. But alas, my linksys 
> switch came with zero documentation, and while I'm an 
> experienced software developer, my only network experience was 
> getting my LRP box up and running, though that's a darn good 
> education in itself.
> 
> I have a Linksys 10/100 switch. It has 4 ports plus 2 uplink ports. 
> One of the uplink ports is connected to my LRP box via a 
> crossover cable, which is in turn connected to the DSL modem. My 
> other boxes are connected to the regular ports. All is well.

I have not seen a hub or switch with multiple uplink ports.  If you told
us the model number of your Linksys switch, then maybe I could look at
the product info on this device and give a better answer.  The only
Linksys switch of this size I can find is the EZXS55W, and this has only
1 uplink port.

> Now I am running out of ports on the Linksys switch due to a spurt 
> of spending too many hours on Ebay (two Dell boxes and a really 
> interesting Crystal rack-mount box). Undoubtedly I will buy another 
> switch with more ports, but in the meantime, I thought, why not 
> use the other uplink port? So I connected my Dell 166 mhz boxes 
> (Ebay, $70 heh heh!) to the switch via the uplink port using a 
> crossover cable. I fired upWin98/IE explorer, and Voila! my box 
> was on the net. 

Normally, the last normal port and the uplink port are shared - in other
words these two connectors are *both* connected to the same "port" and
one is wired "straight" and the other "crossover".  This precludes the
use of 2 computers connected to both of these ports.

> But even though the Dell box can access the internet through the 
> uplink port(internet browsing works), the Dell box seemed to be 
> insulated from the rest of the network for Windows networking - the 
> uplink port Dell  box can't see the others on the network 
> neighborhood, nor can the other boxes see the uplink box. But 
> when I connect the "uplink" box to the network via the normal ports 
> (using a regular cable), everything works.

Strange.

> Questions:
> 
> 1. What is different about an uplink port and the regular ports on 
> the switch, other than that the uplink port uses a crossover cable? 
> (Looks like TCP/IP packets go over the uplink port but not Netbui.)

Usually, just the wiring.  Nothing else.  Looks like you have a weird
switch there, considering every other switch I have seen has only one
uplink port.

> 2. Can I exploit this seeming isolation from Windows networking 
> caused by the uplink port to use the Dell box connected via the 
> uplink port as a Web server (e.g. is this a poor man's DMZ?) I'm 
> pretty sure this is a bad idea and I should get a second network 
> card for the LRP box and have a really isolated web server on a 
> DMZ, but I thought I'd ask. 

Without knowing which model number this switch is, and being able to
find out more info on this switch, I dunno.  As I said, this is a weird
situation.

Regards,
Hilton


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