On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Matt Schalit wrote:

> Jack Coates wrote:
>
>
> > Is there interest in massive applications in general?
>
> Massive but not rediculous.  Perl and java are useful but
> large.  A LEAF box with them gets closer and closer to
> being a full distro, minus the x-windows.  Certainly
> the user would need a cdrom based LEAF.  I'd like to
> see java2, but only the jre.  God only knows how well
> that'll work on a crippled Linux box :)
>

Just for kicks, I took a look at kaffe 1.0.5 -- 1.75 MB .lrp for the
whole environment. I don't know enough about java to say what can get
taken out of that.

>
> > The appliance-friendly nature of LEAF makes one think yes,
> > but then the limitations of RAM disk, glibc, etc...
>
>
> Yes, reinventing the wheel is bogus, and that's what happens
> when we try to pack everything from a full distro into a LEAF.
>
>
> > At any rate, I've just uploaded my 3.2 MB postfix.lrp to
> > the www.monkeynoodle.org packages repository. If I get a chance today
> > I'll see if a JRE will compile too :-)
>
>
> Well that's 3.2MB of _something_, I don't know what :)
>
> You might be interested in j2me.  That's the Java2 Micro Edition
> targeted at embedded systems like color pda's and cell phones with
> limited memory and space.
>
>    http://java.sun.com/j2me/
>

Interesting idea, but no download link that I could see.

> It's like Java2 minus the swing and awt stuff.  Might work
> well for people.  I'm busy writing full blown java2 apps,
> but once I learn those, I may poke around with j2me also.
>
> Regards,
> Matthew
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