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> 
> http://www.theregus.com/content/4/24611.html
> 
> It is absolutely inconceivable to me, if true, that
> that is not some kind of criminal offense.

Ahhh but you and I are honest people that work for a living.  Like maybe
a
handshake still seals the deal.  However, if you're current business
model is losing money, then you have to change licensing models, and
switch to dot net.  Nothing is out of the question to remain a favorite
of Wall Street.

> To build in to an O/S release to automatically fetch
> files without your explicit knowledge and permission
> and even to fetch them from a company which is renowned
> for security holes even if the intent is benign(hah!).

I think this is one of their milder excursions. See below for more. 
Think of all that they can do with dot net.

> If true, I am enraged and astounded that the American
> public is not enraged.  I wonder how this affects corporate

We come home and just want to click a button on the microwave, TV, DVD,
or PC.

> users.  I wonder if Japanes industrialists run XP.

China has adopted linux because the price of windows products eat
too much of their GNP.

> I wonder if Dell would be jointly criminally liable.
> How could this not be frontpage news with info on how
> to cripple this 'feature'?
> What is wrong with us?
> 
> I actually hope this story is a hoax.
> Is The Register reliable?

The story is true there are may more just like it.  Take a look at the
introductory article from http://www.w2knews.com/index.cfm?id=352.
They are counting each time you play a file in windows media player. 
The story said that MS claims that the data is
"firewalled" right now.

Use this handy script on startup or shutdown.  It is for me/98.  There
is a similar location in NT/2000

@echo off
Rem kill wmp database
cd "C:\WINDOWS\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Index"
attrib -r *.*
del WMPLIBrary*.*

Also note that they have a globally unique id to let web sites track you
in windows media player.  It can be turned off, however.

> 
> No wonder they have such disdain for the govt. and the law.
> They want to BE the govt. and the law.
> 

$29 billion in cash helps. Here's how to refuse the mark of the beast.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24668.html

Read how MS killed DRDos in fyodor's bio.  Fyodor designed nmap the
port scanning tool.

http://www.insecure.org/myworld.html

So now let me direct this back more toward the itent of the mailing
list. For along time I've used a varity of operating systems: hp 3000,
IBM, windows, Unix and now Linux.  So I am not a bigot or trying to
start a flame war.  I'll still use whatever makes the most sense for the
job.   That's what an analyst has to do.  It is hard to read through all
the marketing crap, however.

If you disagree with policies of where Microsoft wants to tell you where
to go, then refuse to follow.  So here's what I plan to do. Windows ME
is the end of the road for my house.  I am getting ready to dual boot
the windows PCs with Linux.  I still have to bring the wife and kids
along. The browsing MS tool oriented sites problem using Linux browers
has been solved by the CrossOver Plugin found at
http://www.codeweavers.com/home/. If I have to learn more about Windows,
I'll do it at work.  If I have to certify, I'll choose some other course
than Microsoft such as Zair, Oracle, and Cisco. I find working with
Unix/Linux more interesting to use than MS and I have used both for a
long time.  If you are truely interested in freedom as opposed to the
picture that MS paints, then do what you can for a project like LEAF. 
I've learned alot of interesting things by reading the LEAF mailing
list.  Work on mini howtos in any available time you have.  Encourage
people just beginning and struggling to use LEAF, etc.  In order to
retain your online freedom, there still has to be a choice.  

Greg Morgan

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