mail.host.com was an example of an outside smtp server. I cant telnet to any of them. 
I have no mail servers internally. Also have tried just ip address instead of FQN .. 
no go.
All machines behind firewall are win2k and winME.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Ray Olszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Fri, 17 May 2002 14:33:53 -0700

>At 01:58 PM 5/17/02 -0700, Jim Van Eeckhoutte wrote:
>>i have bering rc1 with shorewall (firewall wide open)and i cant seem 
>>to telnet mail.host.com 25. I can ping it and tracert it. 
>
>What is "mail.host.com" and where it is located? For example, is it a DMZ
>server of yours on its own interface, using port-forwarding from the router?
>Is it your ISP's mail forwarder? Is it the router itself? Is it an off-LAN
>mail server at another site run by your company? Or is it something else?
>
>Is it the same machine from which the LAN clients receive their POP3 mail?
>If so, does the POP3 access program also use "mail.host.com" to identify the
>server, or something else?
>
>If you tell the SMTP client (which one is it, BTW?) to find the SMTP server
>by its actual IP address, does that do any better? Or can you telnet to its
>port 25 if you use its actual IP address?
>
>If it is your machine ... what OS does it run and what SMTP server package?
>Is it set up to do DNS resolution properly? Can the SMTP server telnet to
>its own port 25 successfully?
>
>If it is your ISP's machine ... does it require any authentication before
>accepting SMTP traffic for forwarding?
>
>>Bering firewall is setup with dialup connection to verizon(ppp0) 
>>and masq(eth0)to lan.
>>All computers behind the firewall get web and also can recieve mail 
>>(pop) but cant send(smtp). Please help. thank you
>
>
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>Ray Olszewski                                        -- Han Solo
>Palo Alto, CA                                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]        
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