Thanks for your response, Ray. Hopefully I can clarify.

> First, how many different computers have you tested? Did you try Gnatbox 
> software and Dachstein on the same computer (or do you have the hardware 
> version of Gnatbox)? Is the Win98 computer a different physical machine?

Yes.  Originally I had Gnatbox Lite running fine on a P1 machine with no HDD. When the 
changes were made i could no longer connect with Gnatbox, so I tried installing 
Dachstein on the same machine.  I have now also tried Eigerstein on this machine which 
exhibits the same problem.

My Win98SE worksation is a totally different machine.

> Second, when you say "My cable supplier changed my server location 
> recently", what *exactly* do you mean? That they changed the IP address of 
> your DHCP server? Or something else? In any case, were there any other 
> changes coincident to the one you report on the ISP end?

Essentially, as far as I'm aware, they moved my account to a different local server 
network location.  I'm afraid I don't know if it uses a different DHCP server, but I 
have been assigned a significantly different IP address (213.107.X.X became 80.5.X.X).

> Third, -AFTER- the ISP made this change, what was the FIRST computer you 
> connected directly to the service? I want to rule out the possibility that 
> the reason the Win98 machine works and the other does (or others do) not is 
> the use of MAC address authentication by the ISP.

I first tried Gnatbox several times, rebooting my Modem and allowing 4 hours for 
leases to expire.  When I had no joy I tried connecting my Win98 machine directly to 
the cable modem and DHCP was resolved first time.  I had previously not connected via 
Windows for over 6 months.

As far as I know, my ISP is only concerned with the MAC address of my Cable Modem, 
which they have on record. 

> Fourth, you say that "My ISP uses a regular IP address for it's DHCP server 
> (65.252.128.3)". When you have a connection (with the Win98 host), is this 
> address on your external network? (If you are not sure what this means, 
> then let us see the routing table of the Win98 host.)

Heres the route output (I found the DHCP IP above in winipcfg, although it doesn't 
appear here):

C:\WINDOWS>route print

Active Routes:

  Network Address          Netmask  Gateway Address        Interface  Metric
          0.0.0.0          0.0.0.0     80.5.105.254     80.5.105.230       1
       80.5.105.0    255.255.255.0     80.5.105.230     80.5.105.230       1
     80.5.105.230  255.255.255.255        127.0.0.1        127.0.0.1       1
   80.255.255.255  255.255.255.255     80.5.105.230     80.5.105.230       1
        127.0.0.0        255.0.0.0        127.0.0.1        127.0.0.1       1
        224.0.0.0        224.0.0.0     80.5.105.230     80.5.105.230       1
  255.255.255.255  255.255.255.255     80.5.105.230     80.5.105.230       1


> Finally, just to be clear, are we correct in understanding that prior to 
> this change by the ISP, the Gnatbox worked just fine but you had never 
> tried Dachstein on the connection? Also that prior to the change, the ISP 
> had already been using DHCP assignment for your hookup? And that after the 
> change, you were using the same hardware, unchanged, first with Gnatbox, 
> then with Dachstein?

Yes on all counts.  I have never had to reconfigure gnatbox in the past so I stuck 
with it for a while with it's original settings but to no avail.

> If I seem a bit picky about all these questions ... successful 
> troubleshooting is usually a matter fo finding the answer somewhere in the 
> details, so we need to have the details right. Since Dachstein does usually 
> work, we need to figure out what about your circumstances is unusual.

Thanks a lot for taking the time with this.  I'm a relative newbie to *NIX and 
networking but when the SysAdmin friend who installed Gnatbox for me couldn't find an 
answer I had to come here.  I hope the details I have supplied are of some help.

Thanks again, Roki

> At 09:33 PM 7/30/02 -0500, DJ Roki wrote:
> [intermediate stuff deleted]
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: roki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 10:13 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [leaf-user] DHCP stuff (more)
> >[...]
> > > My cable supplier changed my server location recently and since then I
> > > have been unable to set up a firewall to connect to it's DHCP server.
> > >
> > > I was originally using Gnatbox but when this failed I tried Dachstein.
> > > The problem seems to be the same with each.
> > >
> > > I can connect to my ISP's DHCP server using Windows 98SE without
> > > problem, but using both Gnatbox and Dachstein, DHCP requests timeout
> > > without any offer or reply from the server.  I have tested my NICs and
> > > they are fine and correctly orientated.
> > >
> > > I get the message DHCPDISCOVER on ETH0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> > > repeatedly until a final NO OFFERS WERE RECEIVED message.
> > >
> > > Ping requests to external IPs fail on a Type 1 error.  Ping requests and
> > > DHCP on the local network work fine.
> > >
> > > I have left DHCLIENT.conf setup as default as I have not needed to
> > > supply any specific information from Windows or Gnatbox in the past.
> [...]
> 
> 
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> odds!"--------------
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