Tony,

On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:30:03 MST Tony Cappelli wrote:

> Can I get your experienced recommendation about which LEAF
> to might work best for a very specific application?
> 
> I am with an ISP in Los Angeles and we have rolled out 802.11b
> towers in several cities where distance prohibits extending DSL.
> We now need equipment to put out at our customers (end-user)
> home or business.  This equipment would have an Orinoco card
> with antenna attached that faces the tower.  The Orinoco is
> the WAN interface for the customer router.  Th ethernet faces
> their LAN. 
> 
> So far we have been using Win98 computers with WinRoutePro
> and Orinoco PCI-->PCMCIA converters. These have been somewhat
> unreliable. 

Based on my experiences with LEAF and Linux in general, I
suspect you will be very happy with the stability and
reliability of a Linux (or *BSD) router.  I have several
LEAF boxes deployed over 500 miles away from where I live
and have *very few* problems with any of them.  When I do,
99% of the time I can easily login remotely and resolve
the issue.
 
> What is the best LEAF for this purpose?  The WISP seems like
> it's designed for base stations and not customer premises
> equipment. 

I have not used WISP, so I cannot say how well suited it would
or would not be.  I can say Bering would be a good choice.

One of the interfaces on my Bering firewall at home is an
Orinoco Silver card.  90% or more of my traffic passes through
the wireless card on the way to my Road Runner cable connection.
I definitely have more problems with my RCA cable modem than I
do with my Bering router.  I can't remember the last time I
needed to reboot it for a reason other than upgrading or when
experimenting with kernel modules I compiled incorrectly.

brad@lab:~$ ssh homefw uptime
  6:18pm  up 40 days, 22:06, load average: 0.08, 0.01, 0.00

(I upgraded from Bering rc2 to rc3 40 days ago.)

brad@lab:~$ ssh homefw ip -s link show eth5
8: eth5: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100
    link/ether 00:02:2d:2b:0e:a6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    RX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped overrun mcast   
    833294507  3616241  0       0       0       0      
    TX: bytes  packets  errors  dropped carrier collsns 
    2842384866 3644133  165     0       0       0      

(eth0 is my wireless interface.)

> Also, is it necessary to follow the steps outlined by Richard
> Dale below to get an Orinoco card working with Bering LEAF still?
> 
> >From: "Richard Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [leaf-user] Bering & pcmcia_orinoco.lrp - Orinoco_cs updated versions?
> >Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:32:22 +0800
> >
> >A followup & solution.
> >
> >It seems that the orinoco v0.09b drivers aren't very good.

[big snip]

I use the v0.09b drivers on Bering and v0.11b on my primary
notebook and have never noticed any performance or reliability
problems with that combination.  I occasionally get:

  eth0: Error -5 writing packet to BAP

error messages on my notebook, but AFAICT they don't cause any
degradation in performance.

On the other hand, when I used the v0.09b drivers to interact with
a prism2 card using the linux-wlan drivers, I did have a number of
performance problems.  (Details are in the leaf-user archives.)

I suspect there are certain drivers that don't play well with
v0.09b.  My suggestion would be to setup a test LEAF box with
v0.09b and see if you notice any errors in /var/log/syslog or
notice any performance problems.  My experience has been that
if there are going to be problems, they will be significant and
show up quickly and fairly consistently.  For that matter, you
may want to compile the newer drivers and compare their
performance against the older ones while talking to one of your
towers.

Hope that helps.

--Brad



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