Hi all,
I have an old ISA SB Vibra16 soundcard kicking around. If I put this into my LEAF box, is it possible to play streaming mp3? My Bering box is right nest to the stereo in the living room, I really would like to be able to play the radio stations I listen to.
I guess I have to install modules to get the sound card to work, same as I did with 3c509.o? But I have yet to learn how you find out what module to install. Where can I find a list of what all those modules do?
Playing software I'm a bit lost on too. MPG123? I found that with google but no LRP exists.
As others pointed out on the list, LEAF kernels are not compiled with sound. Everything that is not needed for _esential_ networking has been removed for two reasons. One is for space. That is how the whole OS fits on a floppy. Two by removing all the other nonessential kernel code the security of the firewall is enhanced. Any potential undiscovered buffer overflows have been greatly reduced. Linux to begin with has had better success with preventing buffer overflows. Compare that with the most secure system that MS can produce http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-1026420.html. Right click on your MS windows directory and see how big it is. Dachstein with ssh uses around 5 meg on the ram drive. Hence you will not find an mpg.lrp package.
You are correct about installing a module like a 3c509.o network module. Key modules are compiled into the main kernel. The rest are left to be loaded on demand with insmod.
I fair understand how to create LRPs now. But I still don't have a compile enviroment.
I have 7Gb of unpartitioned space on my XP box. But I have no idea where to start. Is it possible to put Bering (or Oxygen ?) onto a small partition and add gcc? Or do I have to install Debian? I've looked around the Debian site but it's a maze to the uninitiated. I really would like just something to compile in, just a command line version.
Jacques Nilo provides these resources http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/jnilo/uml.html and http://leaf.sf.net/doc/guide/bdev.html. However these are geared to firewall issues. However, you would have to use your 7GB space and install Red Hat or some other distribution on your XP box and dual boot. I am dual booting now but I would encourage you to wait on trying that. Although here is a physical way to dual boot that I have not tried http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/howto/story/0,24330,3425846,00.html. You don't have to install software on your boot sector the XP and Linux will fight over.
One final question.
Is 100MHz enough for this anymore? At the moment I route 1Mbit down and 256Kbit up as well as run two VTUN tunnels and up to 9 PPTP clients. I don't know if 100MHz is even enough for that, let alone decoding a 128Kbit stream.
I was able to use sound back on my old 386 25 mhz PC long time ago. MS Windows multimedia finally worked on a pentium 166. It worked slow on a 386 25 mhz. You should have plenty of power for your application.
Here's an alternative that I would have you persue. Use a general purpose Linux box for what you are trying to do and stuff it into the stereo rack. This is the approach that I have been using for almost five years now. It allows you to grow with Linux without risking your XP or LEAF box.
Find an old piece of junk just like what you are using for you LEAF box. Find something with an ATX style board. That may mean you will have a later BIOS that can sport a 120 Gig or more hard drive. I started out with an Amd 500mhz board and maybe 128 mb of ram. I don't recall the ram size now. That is way over kill for what you are trying to do. Add you sound card and a network card then install Red Hat, Mandrake, or SuSe Linux. Red Hat 8 and above will look more XPish.
Oh ho but then the fun begins. Over the years as I have aquired the skills I've made this a Samba server. Hence the 120gig drive provides room for the cd collection to be stored on the server connected to the stereo. The O'Reilly book "Using Samba" was a great help.
My wife said I could buy an Audio Visual Receiver, AVR. So naturally I had to buy a video card with video out, cordless keyboard and mouse, and the mini to RCA cables for the sound card too. LOL My wife doesn't understand how I can see a linux command prompt or a linux desktop on video 2. Becareful of your resolutions while installing the video card. The SDIF out may only support 800X600 while the normal video connector supports 1280x1024. You won't see the video out on the SDIF for your X desktop, if you create your resolutions for anything above what the SDIF supports.
I haven't tried this but you could evently replace the sound card with a higher end sound card http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/audio/5756/.
The other things I have done with this configuration is to create an NFS server for the dual booting PCs. It has become a mail server using IMAP, fetchmail, and squirrel mail. All of these come with Red Hat. Mozilla, Ximian Evolution, and a lot of the other IMAP mail readers work. The family just won't do email on MS products. http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMozillaConfiguration.html However, I have read that Outlook should work. The current project is to make a shared address book with LDAP. http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialLDAP.html. Next in line is SPAM control with http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/unix.html.
I haven't had time to look at it but you might look at http://www.knoppix.org. It is a full linux distribution that runs off a CD. But I can tell clustering is in my future http://bofh.be/clusterknoppix/ and http://openmosix.sourceforge.net/community.html. There is also a kids CD http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/02/03/1918221.shtml?tid=23 and http://www.ofset.org/projects/edusoft/edusoft.html. kstars is a cool application that is also available on red hat.
Just because it sounds twisted, I am thinking of using an Xbox http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ or another yardsale PC with a sound card as a clock radio. Boot up the PC on knoppix before going to bed and have the the samba server cron a song to knoppix at a set time. The snooze button would be controlled by a parallel port or mouse. LOL there is xbox gamecontroller support in the 2.5 soon to be 2.6 linux kernel. Hey but the one wife, three boys, two dogs, two cats, and the new house we just moved into that keeps me from doing much in the way of useful computer play.
Confused as ever,
I don't think so. You're just beginning to explore the open source world. It should make you feel young, free, uncontrolled and pure again. ;-) Just take your time, go slow, and have lots of fun with it. Sorry I digressed from the topic of the leaf list so much.
James.
Greg Morgan
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