The is the update:  Now web server is accessible from the outside.
Since I tried both Rays and Greg's suggestions I will have to put them
on one at a time to figure out which one did the trick. If it was the
ipchains cmd that did it, I can't understand since the same input chain
rule was already present (see below).

I am still curious if anyone can explain why I cannot use the external
IP address 216.12.yy.xx in a web browser on an internal machine to reach
the web server. 
My understanding, from a presentation I found on the web, is that the
linux routing process is:
Input_from_Iface ----> PreRouting ---> routing <---> Input
                                         |            |
                                         V            V
                                       Forward       (This machine)
                                         |            |
                                         V            V
Output_to_iface <----  PostRouting <-------------- Output

Where Input, Forward and Output are the names of the respective chains
under the iptables architecture.
(Don't quite know what pre-routing and post-routing mean in this
context.)
Thanks all in advance.
Rick.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard W. Tibbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tibbs, Richard
Subject: Re Web server available Direct but not behind Dachstein


Thanks Ray and Greg for your responses.
I am including some additional information about symptoms from inside
internal net. I will try from work again tomorrow.>>>

I tried what Ray suggested:
EXTERN_TCP_PORT0 "0/0 www"
instead of
EXTERN_TCP_PORT0 "0/0 www 192.168.x.y/24"
made no difference to symptoms from inside the internal network. (Again,
will try from work tomorrow.)


Then I added the ipchains command that Greg suggested. (Actually a
second one to allow access from the internal interface eth1 as well)

Still from the inside, I can point my browser to the internal IP of the
W2003 server, and the web page is fine. If I point the browser to the
external IP I get, and I quote: Cannot find server or DNS Error Internet
Explorer

Should'nt the port forwarding take any port 80 request directed to the
external IP address and forward it to the INTERN_WWW_SERVER regardless
of what interface it comes in on?  Maybe I am naive about this and
should not be surprised 
that port forward won't work from inside the internal net. Anybody know
why it wouldn't?

Config in network.conf is now:

CONFIGDNS=YES
eth0_IPADDR = <static ip>
eth0_MASKLEN=26
EXTERN_DHCP=NO
EXTERN_TCP_PORT0 "0/0 www"
INTERNAL_WWW_SERVER=192.168.x.y

(For Ray's benefit, everything that should be CAPs was.)
I would love to give you my entire network.conf file, but I don't quite
know how to transfer that to this win2k client.


The input, forward & output chains are reproduced below, as well as port
forwarding.


Chain input (policy DENY: 0 packets, 0 bytes):
  pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark
outsize  source                destination 
   ports
     0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  5 ->   *
     0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  13 ->   *
     0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  14 ->   *
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0              0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
255.255.255.255      0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
127.0.0.0/8          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
224.0.0.0/4          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
10.0.0.0/8           0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
172.16.0.0/12        0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.168.0.0/16       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/8            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
128.0.0.0/16         0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
191.255.0.0/16       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.0.0.0/24         0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
223.255.255.0/24     0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
240.0.0.0/4          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.168.1.0/24       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
216.12.yy.xx         0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 REJECT     all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            127.0.0.0/8           n/a
     0     0 REJECT     all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            192.168.1.0/24        n/a
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   137
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   135
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   137
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   135
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   138:139
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   138
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  137:138 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  135 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  137:139 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  135 ->   *
     0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            216.12.yy.xx 
  * ->   25
     0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            216.12.yy.xx 
  * ->   80
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   113
   136 26990 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   1024:65535
     1    63 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   53
     0     0 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   68
     0     0 DENY       udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   67
     8  1999 ACCEPT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   1024:65535
    27  2484 ACCEPT     icmp ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   *
     0     0 ACCEPT     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     2   120 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
   371 42409 ACCEPT     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            216.12.yy.xx 
  * ->   80
     0     0 ACCEPT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth1
0.0.0.0/0            216.12.yy.xx 
  * ->   80
Chain forward (policy DENY: 0 packets, 0 bytes):
  pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark
outsize  source                destination 
   ports
     0     0 DENY       icmp ----l- 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  5 ->   *
   185 26141 MASQ       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.168.1.0/24       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain output (policy DENY: 0 packets, 0 bytes):
  pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark
outsize  source                destination 
   ports
   575  139K fairq      all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0              0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
255.255.255.255      0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
127.0.0.0/8          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
224.0.0.0/4          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
10.0.0.0/8           0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
172.16.0.0/12        0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.168.0.0/16       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/8            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
128.0.0.0/16         0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
191.255.0.0/16       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.0.0.0/24         0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
223.255.255.0/24     0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ----l- 0xFF 0x00  eth0
240.0.0.0/4          0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 DENY       all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
192.168.1.0/24       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   137
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   135
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   137
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   135
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   138:139
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  * ->   138
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  137:138 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  135 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  137:139 ->   *
     0     0 REJECT     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  eth0
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
  135 ->   *
   575  139K ACCEPT     all  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain fairq (1 references):
  pkts bytes target     prot opt    tosa tosx  ifname     mark
outsize  source                destination 
   ports
     0     0 RETURN     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    n/a
     0     0 RETURN     ospf ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    n/a
     0     0 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   520
     0     0 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    520 ->   *
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   179
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    179 ->   *
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   53
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    53 ->   *
     8   516 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   53
     3   245 RETURN     udp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x1
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    53 ->   *
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x2
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   23
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x2
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    23 ->   *
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x2
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0 
    * ->   22
     0     0 RETURN     tcp  ------ 0xFF 0x00  *          0x2
0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0
:: Port FW ::
prot localaddr            rediraddr               lport    rport  pcnt
pref
TCP  216.12.yy.xx         192.168.a.b               143      143    10
10
TCP  216.12.yy.xx         192.168.a.b                80       80     5
10






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