Evening,
I can't see that causing any major problems in Sudbury, as there were very
few modifications for us.

However, if there are going to be a fair number of changes, may I suggest
another big one?
We had a lot of success using Leaguerunner this year and we are looking into
handling our own payments next year.  Unfortunately, the Sudbury club is not
nearly
big enough to justify the business requirements that online payments
require, namely a Customer Support Telephone Number and permanent Mailing
address.  Our
executive is not comfortable submitting their own home info to cover these
issues.  ODSA is not meeting our needs now that we are using Leaguerunner
due to
the inability to pull user data directly from ODSA, causing our membership
to complain (A LOT) about double registrations.

Would it be possible to build in another level of organization into
Leaguerunner?  Specifically - 'Club' -  above the league structure?  We
really want to move forward
as a club, but the cost of online payments is too much for Sudbury to
support.  If Leaguerunner had a higher tier of organization, Sudbury could
piggy back on
a larger club to help offset some costs.  Of course, that would be up to you
'Big Kids'.

Any thoughts?  Hope I'm not overstepping boundaries looking to ride coat
tails so to speak.

Todd McDonald


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Greg Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:

>  CakePHP requirements are extremely simple.  You need a web server, a
> database, and PHP 4.3.2 or newer.
> http://book.cakephp.org/view/28/Requirements
>
> We would definitely be making database migration scripts.  For the most
> part, this will involve nothing more than renaming some columns and tables,
> so customizations you may have made in the database (e.g. new columns)
> shouldn't cause problems.
>
> Greg.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Peter McAlpine
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:27 AM
> *To:* Development discussion for the Leaguerunner league management system
> *Subject:* Re: [Leaguerunner] Converting Leaguerunner to CakePHP
>
> Hello,
>
> The only concern I would have would be if CakePHP has
> library/system/configuration requirements which would make it significantly
> more difficult to install at my hosting company.
>
> I think it would also be very important for GUPA that database migration
> scripts exist.
>
> Otherwise, I think it's a great idea and am grateful for the continued
> investments of your time/efforts in the sport.
>
> -Peter
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Greg Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Dave and I have had some off-list discussions about the possibility of
>> converting Leaguerunner to run in the CakePHP framework (
>> http://cakephp.org/)  From a development perspective, Cake offers a ton
>> of functionality that makes adding new features much easier than it
>> currently is (I won't go into specifics here).  It implements a true MVC
>> architecture, making it easier to tweak output without having to understand
>> the algorithms.  It is database-independent, supporting MySQL, MS-SQL,
>> Oracle, Postgres and several others.  It comes with a command-line "bake"
>> utility that builds CRUD (create, read, update and delete) skeleton code
>> based on the database schema, making it almost trivial to replace all of the
>> current edit pages which make up the bulk of Leaguerunner functionality.  It
>> has support for XML, RSS, Ajax and so on, making it easier to build widgets
>> that integrate Leaguerunner into other systems (e.g. Drupal in Ottawa,
>> Zikula in Toronto).
>>
>> The only downside I see is that it potentially raises the bar for
>> installation and modification slightly for casual programmers, although on
>> the other hand their documentation is much more complete than
>> Leaguerunner's, and there's a much larger community out there to provide
>> support.
>>
>> It looks like this project could be started in January and completed well
>> before summer leagues open (May here in Toronto).  Because this would be a
>> major architectural change, it has ramifications for anyone that is
>> currently running a non-standard version, so we felt we should open it up to
>> discussion.
>>
>> The first question is whether or not to even do it.  For me, it's a
>> no-brainer.  I've been working in Cake on a number of other projects and
>> it's really a much more inviting environment to develop in.  I think I've
>> pretty much got Dave convinced too.  Other opinions?
>>
>> If we do decide to push forward with it, there will be more
>> specific questions to ask before starting, but those can wait for the moment
>> to avoid confusing the issue.
>>
>> Greg.
>>
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