On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Zefram wrote:

> Tony Finch wrote:
> >                        As we have seen there are a lot of intricate
> >details whose necessity people can legitimately disagree about and no way
> >to determine an official consensus. Which is why I say that astronomical
> >GMT doesn't exist.
>
> Interesting argument.  I disagree with your central point: I don't
> think an official realisation of GMT is required in order for GMT to
> meaningfully exist.

Note that in the above I'm talking about astronomical GMT. There is an
official realisation of legal GMT, and it is UTC. If you create a new
astronomical timescale it would be wrong to claim it is GMT. GMT(Zefram)
is probably OK though :-)

> Making a clear distinction between ideal and realisation smells like
> modern behaviour; considering the many different meanings of "GMT" that
> have already been identified, I would not be surprised at it being
> irretrievably ambiguous in this respect.

Yes, definitely. I'm stretching when I claim that the practical realities
of time in the UK are enough to unambiguously define GMT == UTC
(obviously, or we wouldn't be having this discussion).

> Does anyone have relevant historical documentation on the philosophical
> definition of GMT?

This is brief and sketchy:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/explore/astronomy-and-time/astronomy-facts/history/the-longitude-of-greenwich

Tony.
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