On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:

> On Jul 9, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
>> There's four different Unix implementations of leap seconds
>> 
>> (1) Repeat the first second of the next day.
>> (2) Repeat the last second of leap day.
>> (3) Freeze time
>> (4) slew it in over many hours.
> 
> Just to echo a well traveled talking point here, note that none of these is 
> actually compliant with UTC. Actual UTC compliance would be simpler to 
> implement.  UTC is just an overlay on an unending stream of TAI seconds.  The 
> reality is there is no leap second.

Except that isn't POSIX time_t compliant, alas.  That's the other variation I 
forgot, which is to use the "right" timezone files, which also have their own 
set of problems for long-running applications (a variation on getting the UTC 
leap second tables problem).  I've gone on at length in other forums why this 
is clever, but not a complete solution.

Also, a never ending stream of TAI seconds is easy to count, but hard to 
convert to UTC since you need a leap second table to do that.  This can present 
problems to applications that need to present a UTC time to the outside world 
that have been off for a while.  GPS can give you the current TAI time very 
quickly, but cannot give you the UTC time until it has downloaded the almanac 
(especially if the device has been off > 6 months).

Warner

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