On 5 February 2017 at 16:58, Alberto Bursi <alberto.bu...@outlook.it> wrote: > > > On 02/05/2017 05:37 PM, Daniel Golle wrote: >> Hi Alberto, >> It's the first time I'm trying to get work compensated by the community >> and I'm not sure whether kickstarter is the right way to go -- though >> I've written clearly that the initial goal would cover one night of >> hacking on rt2x00 and additional funds would pay for additional hours, >> I'm not sure whether everyone got that. Maybe I'll just need to stop >> at some point today, because by now, I've been working on MT7620- >> related stuff for more hours than I'd ever work for that amount of >> money. Surely, my motivation isn't purely economic in that case, I >> actually have some idealistic and educational goals as well, which is >> also why I started upstreaming the rt2x00 patches. However, I also >> don't want to leave the impression that I'd work for less than minimum >> wage on stuff which I'm only capable of doing because I've been hacking >> on kernel code for something like a decade by now. And as it looks like >> right now, this can work for a weekend, but cannot become a habbit, >> simply because I can't afford that luxury if it only pays the minimum >> I've been asking for initially -- probably I just need to create new >> projects on kickstarter for each phase of work, but that also seems >> like a lot of overhead given that I'd rather work on code than spending >> time on a rather annoying JavaScript-application running in my browser >> and eating half of the RAM of my machine... >> >> So if you now any better method or service than kickstarter which >> allows me to follow the street-musician-protocol while hacking on >> FOSS code, that'd be highly appreciated. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Daniel >> > > IMHO crowd-funding is a good way for FOSS. > It allows people that are unable to actually develop to help out by > sending money so that those that can develop can do so more freely. > As long as this concept is stated clearly, everything should be fine. > Afaik it's unrealistic to expect top pay out of it, but it will help out > on things you are probably going to do anyway. > > Crowd-funding in general requires you to actually devote some time to > post somewhat regular updates (with proof of what you did if possible, > for FOSS it's easy as you just push sources on a public repo so people > can see them and test them maybe). > The idea is keeping the people informed of what you did with their > money. You can see this if you look at any other half-decent > crowdfunding project on Kickstarter or everywhere else. > > Kickstarter usually favors projects that drop from the sky and storm the > place weapons-blazing, so to speak. It isn't for everyone. > Like for example this, the Krita open source painting software (this is > the third round they get decent founding for yearly development on > kickstarter) > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krita/krita-free-paint-app-lets-make-it-faster-than-phot > You can see that they posted lots of content about what they would do, > and also stretch goals and whatever, and used many images too, big > goals, great hopes, hype everywhere. This helps attract attention and > donations in a relatively short time. > > For example, kickstarter has "stretch goals", goals that unlock more > features beyond the one for the main goal. You might add that for every > XXX$ money sent you will be able to devote another weekend or something > to look at it or whatever. So you can keep people motivated in sending > donations. > > For your need to keep the overhead low for a potential next run, I'd > personally recommend to look at the Patreon site instead. > https://www.patreon.com > It is a crowd-funding site born in 2013 for paying artists (and is quite > big in this), but is also being used by software developers. > > The main difference with kickstarter is that its main concept is > allowing (many) people to set up a (relatively small) monthly donation > and become "patrons" of an artist (kinda like in the old times where > artists were hosts of a single rich patron, notice the similarity with > "Patreon" name of the site). It thus requires less fanfare than > Kickstarter, but regular updates are still good. > > I'd like to cite as an example of "using Patreon right" Kent Overstreet > (he made bcache, currently in mainline linux and also in production use) > that is using it to get some support for his next project, bcachefs > https://www.patreon.com/bcachefs > As you see he is getting around 870$ a month, which isn't that bad, but > of course it's not anywhere near top pay for his skills. > > As a last point, I'd like to repeat what I said in the mail you > responded to. Every now and then it's good to send a mail to the main > open source news sites with updates or whatnot so they can post a news > article about you and attract some attention (and donations/patrons) on > your project. > > -Alberto
https://www.bountysource.com/issues/32309542-no-connection-on-wlan-in-2-4g Looks like you can collect on this one too. You got a lot of comment on how the LEDE merge made Xiaomi stuff not suck. And the main backer owns Xiaomi. _______________________________________________ Lede-dev mailing list Lede-dev@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/lede-dev