Hi all;
I figured I should at some point add my voice to this.
First, I think it is important that we have, as a community, a strong level
of control over the site, and the fact is that being able to get Drupal
modules, etc,. installed has been difficult here for some time. Again,
Command Prompt's contributions have been invaluable and I don't want to
come across as minimizing them. Without their involvement in both the
software coding, design, web site, etc. we wouldn't be where we are today.
At the same time we have had a lot of infrastructure projects and such that
we haven't been able to take on simply because of a lack of bandwidth on
CMD's side, and this has been perpetual frustration I think on all sides
including my understanding of some complaints of Josh's. Some of these may
be lower maintenance than the web site would be and just as (or nearly as)
visible. So I don't think a move necessarily significantly harms CMD's
ability to be visible to those who are looking at LedgerSMB but haven't yet
made up their minds. The limitation as always is the amount of effort they
can put into contributing and maintaining. and I don't think the current
web site is a uniquely low hanging fruit in that regard. Indeed there may
be even lower hanging areas.
Extending the available bandwidth through allowing contributions to our
infrastructure by long-term members of the community thus seems quite wise
to me. Josh hasn't commented here. Since Josh hasn't commented here yet I
don't really know what his priority in some of these projects might be.
However, we've wanted the opportunity to move off SF.net for list
management for some time because of historical problems regarding some
email providers (gmail being the one that has had the most issues).
In response to Robert, there are also a few reasons to have as much of the
infrastructure be community hosted as possible, and look at Sourceforge as
being primarily a content distribution provider. Sourceforge's downloads
structure is such that it is easy to link these from an external CMS. The
question is largely one of maintaining the links. One important aspect is
that the more different pieces of infrastructure we have that are
contributed by different individuals, the more it advertises the size and
vitality of the community. And while it may be possible to install some of
this on the Sourceforge site, I the fact is that those of us on the core
team have tended put coding as a higher priority than some nuts and bolts
aspects of infrastructure management. So I would just as soon accept
contributions in this area from interested parties.
I think some ground rules are important however. I think that it is
extremely important to try to ensure that the core team have administrative
rights to all official ledgersmb.org software projects, and I think it is
important that we establish that those who are not able to continue must
agree to transition the site to other hosting providers gracefully. We
would also need some assurance that there is at least some general
protection against unforeseen circumstances, such as when we lost the
LedgerSMB wiki on Leah Kubik's death.
Josh hasn't yet commented on this thread yet. I would like to give him a
few more days to make his opinion and interests known, given that he is on
the core team, and talk about what steps can be taken to ease impacts that
such a move would have. However, I do think such a move would be good for
the project.
Finally to all those who have offered to help with the web site, such
offers are extremely welcome. I would suggest making sure that we have
ways of recognizing this effort, whether in the CONTRIBUTORS file or
elsewhere. This is an area we need to figure out. What does everyone
think about this? What is the desired way to recognize such contributors?
Best Wishes,
Chris Travers
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