Hi, Erik,

Thanks for taking this on!

Key things that are still blockers for me:

* AR/AP reports do not have totals
* Aging reports default search shows all accounts, even those with no outstanding amounts, and no totals

Lots of little annoyances/regressions in user experience:

* Trial Balance (What is "Save" in this screen? Save and run - fails, missing stored function. Save fails -- access denied).

* Links to accounts/reports from within reports don't pull up relevant filtered results (e.g. from trial balance, following an acct link with a date range set takes you to all transactions including outside that date range, no start date, end date outputing a HASH)

* Using back button in a report loses many filter settings (especially dojo widgets)

* No comparison reports -- < 1.4 lets you compare 2 date ranges, 1.4 only a single on most reports

What I've seen so far with numbers do seem to match 1.3, but have not evaluated in depth.

Also have not gone through most workflows entirely, so I may well have (a lot more) to add... such as check printing... (Did this get switched away from LaTeX?)


I just tested uploading a file to an employee contact record (something desperately needed here -- a way to store employee hire paperwork) and there's no way to actually upload a file -- no file dialog.


Also, have not gone through permissions in detail but do have some challenges around permissions in 1.3 at least, and am assuming are still in 1.4. Specifically, I'd like to be able to set up an admin to handle AR and have them be able to pull up cash receipts without being able to see payments or AP. The Cash permissions don't seem to be able to separate between AP and AR transactions -- all become visible when adding cash permissions. (I can see this being relevant for AP folks, too).

We had discussed at some point simplifying the permissions screens to show a lot fewer but more appropriate permissions. I think having the fine-grained control is good, but it's overwhelming -- and yet here's a case where it's insufficient. Maybe we can define a few different roles that can aggregate appropriate permissions, and then have a more detailed screen (eventually -- certainly not necessary now) for fine tuning.

Oh, and another case where permissions are insufficient -- different roles need access to different files. E.g. AR probably needs access to files attached to customers, orders, etc but not employees. HR needs access to files attached to employees -- but most other roles should not have access to these.

I'm thinking these basic roles as a starting point:

AR -- access to customers, AR transactions, receipts, AR vouchers

AP -- access to vendors, AP transactions, payments, check printing, AP vouchers

Bookkeeper -- data entry on AP/AR/GL, reconciliation,

HR - employee records, files on employee contact records

Owner -- transaction approval, batch approval, draft approval, reports, HR/Employees, Users

CPA -- read-only access to all reports, AP/AR/GL detail, Close books

Cashier -- POS


I'm sure there are many others, but those are the gist of what comes to mind...

Cheers,
John Locke
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On 12/02/2013 01:30 AM, Erik Huelsmann wrote:
Hi Chris,


Thanks for your addition to the thread. Are there specific scenario's that need to be tested in AR/AP? If so, could we add those as actions/tickets in the bug tracker? That way, we'd have a single canonical place to look at to see steps toward 1.4.

My personal backlog in my todo list seems to be decreasing, so I'm not just chasing items, but willing to put work in the list as well.

Bye,

Erik.




On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Chris Travers <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    There are a couple reports that need to be moved over to the new
    framework but they are pretty minor.  The AR/AP aging report needs
    a lot more testing.  Timecard have a little more work to be
    finished up.

    Other than that just bug fixes.

    Best Wishes,
    Chris Travers


    On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:08 AM, herman vierendeels
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        seems good to me
        thanks!

        2013/11/30 Nigel Titley <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>:
        > On 30/11/2013 15:53, Erik Huelsmann wrote:
        >
        > Hi all,
        >
        >
        > Today I wondered what's there between now and the point
        where we can release
        > 1.4.0. So, I started to look at any open 1.4 bugs. It seems
        there are none
        > at the moment (neither are there any open tickets on 1.3).
        >
        > Hmm, I haven't managed to build a working 1.4 so my testing
        options are
        > limited, but we found 3 (or possibly 4) bugs on the 1.4 demo
        system within
        > about 10 minutes of running our usual workflows on it. Is
        the demo running
        > the latest 1.4? All of the bugs we found got reported
        directly to Chris.
        >
        >
        > So, I would like to request everybody who is currently
        running 1.4 and knows
        > about any unsolved problems to report those on SourceForge
        (or in response
        > to this message so I can). That way, we have a canonical
        place to record
        > whether we're ready to release 1.4 or not.
        >
        > Further more, I propose we create a stabilization branch
        next week, so that
        > any features which are committed to trunk will appear in 1.5
        and stop to
        > destabilize 1.4. I'm particularly thinking of Istvan's
        "invoice creation
        > date"-forward port which (accidentally) caused
        destabilization. If we branch
        > sooner rather than later, we'll be able to control the
        stability of 1.4
        > better -admittedly at the cost of backport-efforts.
        >
        > After branching 1.4, we could release 1.4-alpha2 to
        stimulate testing by a
        > wider audience.
        >
        > That sounds sensible
        >
        >
        >
        > Irrespective of whether we branch or not, it seems more and
        more people are
        > starting to use Apache 2.4. To help people get a working
        configuration, we
        > want to deliver a separate 2.4 template - this applies to
        1.4 and 1.3
        > equally, so doesn't need to delay the release of a 1.4
        alpha. As soon as we
        > have an apache2.4 config template, we can release that with
        1.3, 1.4 and put
        > it in trunk, if we do so after branching.
        >
        > Yes
        >
        >
        > Any other items/steps?
        >
        >
        > --
        > Bye,
        >
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