I wasn't asking where you were, but Eric, who I believe lives up manc way,
and therefore would not have seen all the London news.

-----Original Message-----
From: sinisterpicturesDB [mailto:sinisterpictu...@dogz-bollox.co.uk] 
Sent: 10 August 2011 12:42
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: 'Eric B'; 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots

I was there mark!

On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:33, Mark Humphries wrote:

> Where did you get your info?
> 
> 
> 
> I got mine from the million news reports we have had here in London 
> since Saturday.
> 
> 
> 
> Where do you live again?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 10 August 2011 12:10
> To: Mark Humphries
> Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
> 
> 
> 
> Just cause I got the timelines does not make any difference to my 
> statements.
> 
> Me political agenda? you re having a laff mate, I ve never voted in my
life.
> I bet you have. 
> 
> 
> 
> You "heard" it was the anarchist lot that started this? and then you 
> ask me to get my facts right?
> 
> Well I heard my aunty has got balls, but guess what.. it wasnt true.. DOH!
> 
> 
> 
> Keep it real mate,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mark Humphries 
> <mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> What happened was there was a protest march for the shooting, this was 
> a peaceful march and the policing was anything but rough - the police 
> had a very small presence precisely to prevent antagonism.  What then 
> happened was a bunch of idiots (I have heard it was the anarchist lot) 
> hijacked the march and started the violence.
> 
> 
> 
> But don't let the facts get in the way of your political agenda!
> 
> 
> 
> From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
> 
> Sent: 10 August 2011 11:20
> To: Mark Humphries
> 
> Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
> 
> 
> 
> I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I 
> dont think its a coincidence he got shot by the police the same day this
started.
> But thats my opinion only. Apparently another trigger was rough 
> policing to a peaceful protest that demanded justice. Maybe its a clue 
> that rough policing will trigger further violent escalations?
> 
> 
> 
> From a legal point of view anybody with a local passport is a citizen. 
> 
> Citizen: "A legally recognized subject or national of a state or 
> commonwealth, either native or naturalized."
> 
> 
> 
> However I take your point this has been abused by a vast majority of 
> people who are not linked to the initial incident. A bit like 
> hooligans that go to football games to pick a fight, not to watch
football.
> 
> I also agree that waving a shooting arm at police is asking for 
> trouble. I wouldnt want to be the police officer having to make that call.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Mark Humphries 
> <mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't call the people who are looting and rioting as "citizens".
> 
> Luckily it seems to be being brought under control now, but if it 
> wasn't then there is a very good risk of some of us citizens standing 
> up to them ourselves, and that could indeed be called a civil war.
> 
> And again, let's not try and link what is happening with the shooting 
> in Tottenham, it is totally unrelated and the vast majority of those 
> looting wouldn't even know the blokes name.  The bloke who was shot 
> was waving around a firearm, so let's also not infer that this was 
> another innocent victim or police brutality.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
> [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
> 
> Behalf Of Eric B
> Sent: 10 August 2011 10:27
> To: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
> 
> Cc: leedslist
> Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
> 
> maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk 
> killing kids? After all this did start by someone being shot by the
police.
> tear gas wont kill anyone so maybe thats a better idea.
> 
> I note that quite a few people wants the army involved however I d say 
> that putting the army against your own citizens is similar to a civil 
> war in many respects.
> I understand these are riots but hey... Hence I agree this is a job 
> for the police and not the army.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 9:19 AM, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group 
> (bmcwill) < brendan.mcwilli...@vodafone.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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