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Today's Topics:
1. Re: from itv - pen4ken (Chris Briggs)
2. Re: from itv - pen4ken (sinisterpicturesDB)
3. Hay has his Say || YEP this morning (Dr Michael Benjamin)
4. Match Highlights on BBC Website? (Sutton / Smail)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 19:18:20 +0100
From: Chris Briggs <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LU] from itv - pen4ken
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You either did it anti-clockwise (ken's preference is clockwise) or you've got
a hairy tongue.
On 24 Aug 2012, at 19:02, [email protected] wrote:
> On 24/08/2012 18:54, Chris Briggs wrote:
>> Ah, reverse psychology eh, good plan.
>>
>> In that case then may I be the first to extend my heartfelt congratulations
>> to the lister that sends loveable rogue Ken Bates, who in my opinion should
>> be given a knighthood, a letter expressing eternal gratitude for being the
>> saviour of Leeds United and gives him a complimentary rimming when he is
>> next at Elland Roa
>
>
> already done it, he told me to fuck off..................
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:11:41 +0100
From: sinisterpicturesDB <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LU] from itv - pen4ken
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Have I posed this before? Apologies if so, but it did give a moment of
merriment,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30814347@N00/7602456090/
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 08:19:09 +0100
From: Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]>
To: LEEDSLIST <[email protected]>
Subject: [LU] Hay has his Say || YEP this morning
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> By Phil Hay
> Published on *Saturday 25 August 2012 08:00*
>
> The laborious takeover of Leeds United spawned a supporter-led protest on
> Thursday, under the banner #Pen4Ken.
>
> The campaign is derived from Ten4Ken, a short-lived movement which in
> 2010 sought answers to 10 questions about the club?s policies and ownership
> structure. It consists of nothing more militant or aggressive than posting
> pens to Ken Bates care of
> Leeds<http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-takeover-patience-starting-to-run-out-hay-1-4866903#>
> United
> and Elland Road.
>
> All scepticism about strategy and impact aside, the sentiment of #Pen4Ken
> is genuinely conceived. This takeover needs signing off and patience is
> wearing thin. There is rising clamour for Bates, United?s chairman and
> majority shareholder, to put his name to a deal which passes the club to
> new owners. The generous public are making sure he has something to write
> with.
>
> If the demand for completion ? or if not that, some clarity beyond the
> meaningless insistence that ?talks are on-going? ? strikes you as premature
> then consider the following: 88 days have passed since
> Leeds<http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-takeover-patience-starting-to-run-out-hay-1-4866903#>stated
> on May 29 that they were talking to investors with serious intent. Exactly
> 60 have passed since the club entered into an exclusivity period with a
> group of buyers from the Middle East, allowing them to pick through the
> financial details of United?s accounts. Solicitors who specialise in
> corporate law find the timeline surprising and unusually long.
>
> A week ago, two members of the management team at Dubai-based private
> equity firm GFH Capital Limited attended United?s game against Wolves. GFH
> Capital Limited are widely believed to be the go-between in this sale ? the
> firm acting as brokers on behalf of the buyers ? and their public
> appearance at Elland Road was no bad sign. But in the days that followed
> the silence has been almost total. Even whispers of back-and-forward
> negotiations began to dry up.
>
> A lawyer contacted by the YEP yesterday, someone who has dealt with
> takeovers at other English clubs, said the duration of a typical sale was
> rarely more than ?a couple of months.? Occasionally they are completed in a
> matter of days, like the purchase of Leeds by Bates and the Forward Sports
> Fund from Gerald Krasner?s board in 2005 but due diligence sees to it that
> most buy-outs take longer. Few which ultimately end in a deal are as
> drawn-out as the latest attempt to acquire control at Elland Road.
>
> So the view of those who know the landscape is that this deal has strayed
> into the realms of the ridiculous and was heading that way for several
> weeks, not helped by the confidentiality agreement which smothers the full
> story. Bates said last week that in the absence of official comment,
> ?rumours abound? and ?pub speculation? runs wild. He is not wrong. The very
> reason why #Pen4Ken began consuming Twitter was because credence has been
> given to the idea that a signature from him is all that stands between
> Leeds and investment from the Middle East.
>
> Certain legal sources believe that suggestion is not so far from the
> truth. The talk in the past few weeks has been about disagreements over an
> indemnity clause ? the protection given to a buyer in the event that
> liabilities appear after a sale is complete ? and arguments over cash paid
> to the club by the Middle Eastern consortium during the summer. One contact
> on the seller?s side claimed scheduled payments owed to Leeds had been
> missed. Another connected to the buyers said they were unwilling to release
> any more money until final agreement on the transfer of Bates 72.85 per
> cent stake was reached. And so it continues with no official confirmation
> either way.
>
> The YEP contacted Leeds and GFH Capital Limited after Saturday?s game
> against Wolves in an attempt to discuss the appearance of GFH executives
> Salem Patel and David Patel at Elland Road and clarify several rumours
> concerning the sale of United. Predictably there was no response. Both
> sides have stuck fast to their confidentiality clause and for many weeks
> there was no argument with that. People craved news and looked for
> developments but appreciated the complex nature of a takeover. In the past
> month, the commitment to confidentiality has felt more like a useful
> defence against valid questions, masking a confusing situation.
>
> The only certainty almost 90 days on is that the takeover is not dead.
> Warnock stated as much on Thursday and it is plain from his recent comments
> in the press that he is not in the mood to deceive anyone, least of all the
> club?s supporters. It is safe to assume that he wants this buy-out agreed,
> for the good of himself and his team. It is hard to imagine the scale of
> frustration in fearing the August transfer deadline will pass without any
> more signings.
>
> That, above all else, is a reason why Bates should understand the wall of
> noise telling him to hand the baton on. It is reckless for anyone to
> endorse this bid from the Middle East without any firm details about who
> the bidders are, how much money they have, how much they plan to invest and
> what their long-term strategy will be but the lack of information does not
> alter the debate about where Leeds are heading without serious investment.
>
> The message from Warnock at his press conference on Thursday was that he
> has nothing left in the way of funds and no expectation of any coming his
> way without a takeover. Even his mention of the emergency loan window was
> tempered by the admission that any signings from that particular market
> would be dependent on finances. That is not only a warning for the fate of
> this season but a warning for future seasons too. It gives the impression
> of a regime that has run out of steam ? a regime who should be pleased that
> an offer to buy the club arrived when it did.
>
> Back when takeover fever first took hold of Leeds, it was convenient to
> think that their meagre transfer fund was an inevitable feature of a
> business about to change hands. It appears now that Leeds simply had no
> money to give Warnock. The well is dry again and their manager is helpless.
> When he enquired speculatively about a player on Wednesday, he was blown
> out the water by an offer from another Championship club.
>
> Bates cannot or should not be oblivious to this. He cannot hear a manager
> like Warnock claim that his existing squad have ?not a cat in hell?s
> chance? of seeing through a full Championship season and fail to see the
> problem. Supporters and journalists who offer that view are easy to ignore
> but not a 63-year-old with seven promotions behind him. The air smells of
> stagnation.
>
> Sixty days ago, when United announced that due diligence was underway,
> they said in black and white that the buyers in question ?have the
> financial resources to support the club and will have no issues in
> satisfying the requirements of the Football League?s Owners and Directors
> Test, unlike many of the previous approaches we have had to endure.? It was
> a fundamental admission, accepting the consortium as fit, financed and
> responsible purchasers. If that is so then this deal should be ratified
> without delay, in the best interests of Leeds
> United<http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-takeover-patience-starting-to-run-out-hay-1-4866903#>.
> Those interests are not being served by the bizarre status quo.
>
Dr Michael Benjamin,
Community Psychiatrist
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 10:52:25 +0100
From: "Sutton / Smail" <[email protected]>
To: "Leeds List \(Post to list\)" <[email protected]>
Subject: [LU] Match Highlights on BBC Website?
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To answer my own question if anyone's bothered........
Dear Mr. Smail,
Unfortunately we will not be showing individual match highlights on the
website this season.
However, you can re-watch The Football League show every week to find
your club's matches:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01m9fsk/The_Football_League_Show_2
012_2013_18_08_2012/
I hope the information helps.
Kind Regards
Sport Interactive Team
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