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From: Tim Leslie
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The Germans have got so many things right IMHO. Been over there a few
times now and just think they have got it right on so many levels.
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. Cheap tickets, great atmosphere, beer and
food in and around the ground.
Plus you get a sticker on every pub door, which denotes whether it is a
smoking pub or a smoke free one, exactly what IMHO we should have done in
this country. If you haven't been, go to Dusselfdorf via Jet2 and spend a
weekend in the Altstadt with a few mates (Try the brilliant Pork Sarnie
shop in the middle of the main drag at around 11PM, you'll never want to
eat a mucky kebab again!). HufHauses, Precision engineering that works,
good but cheap software (Teamviewer and PRTG are superb for the price!),
the ability to drive like a mature adult on the Autobahn.
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Absolutely spot on. Been 4 times this year, paid approx. £36 return Inc.
taxes etc. with Ryanair from Leeds to Weeze.
Cheaper than London and more people speak English than in London.
All our politicians and journalists should be made to go there to see how a
modern country should be run and what we should aspire to. All we seem to
read is how we won the war/world cup/Germans have no sense of humour and its
all tosh. When you come back here you realise how we're slipping into
becoming a third world country.
I remember it being considered 'poncy' to go in any seats.
On 3 Dec 2012, at 11:41, David Nattan <nat...@sky.com> wrote:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2012/dec/02/ermany-bundesliga-noisy-fans
A real reminder of the good old days at ER and elsewhere - half of me
does
not want Prem football because it is so sanitised and seems to be
getting
worse season by season. I hardly watch any football inc MOTD and part of
that is down to the total lack of atmosphere at the grounds. ER is
getting
worse every year and only partly due to the team and the general malaise
around the club - all seaters and over enthusiastic stewarding etc are
killing it all and driving away the old , mainly working class*, fans
who
used a Saturday afternoon to get rid of all their pent up emotions etc.
Costs need to come down and safe standing areas are a must in my view
(albeit I would stay in the seats!)
Dave
*( I know I am firmly middle class)
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