Would have replied earlier but been tied up with christmas and stuff.

Firstly on dutch food it all depends what you mean by not the best. It's okay, 
many ways much like 
traditional - or probably better to say conventional - british food, nothing to 
write home about as such 
and if not cooked well/overcooked definitely not albeit maybe not as bad as 
badly done and 
overcooked meat and two veg. Classic dutch food tends to be of this variety, 
hearty food for cold 
winter months. Cooked well though it is enjoyable. There's also a lot of good 
international cuisine and 
real dutch treats like nieuwe haring (worth trying at least once).

There's lots to do and visit in all the various parts of the Netherlands. As 
for Amsterdam it should be 
buzzing next year with lots of different events and anniversaries such as 400 
years of the canal belt 
which has just got UNESCO cultural heritage status, the Rijksmuseum reopens in 
April, Stedelijk has 
just reopened. Lots of things going on in association with these and more. I do 
have a list of things but 
it's back in Amsterdam and I'm in London at the moment.

So yes, there is a lot more than the red light area(s) and coffeeshops but I'll 
leave it at this for the 
moment.

Maybe not a white christmas but (early) happy new year greetings to all
guy


On 27 Dec 2012 at 6:40, Steve Gillen wrote:

Thanks to all who took the trouble to reply to my request - more information is 
still needed!  :-)

Lille is pretty certain to be on the itinerary and the converted convent sounds 
a good hotel to start with 
- Belgium is next, but not sure where to stop and what to see, as we would be 
heading in the general 
direction of Germany - most likely Cologne and Dusseldorf - other suggested 
cities are just too far 
and we have no desire to spend our trip entirely on motorways! But more 
suggestion on what to see 
there or around and about them would be welcome.

I'm slightly disappointed to hear that Dutch food is not the best, but then we 
eat so little these days, 
that's hardly a big deal (one meal between the two of us and there would still 
be leftovers!) - Arnhem 
is an almost certainty, with yet another converted convent (where did all these 
nuns go then?) - pity to 
miss the Anne Frank house, but if it is so access unfriendly then so be it.

OK I knew Amsterdam has Cannabis cafes and a red light district, surely there 
must be more? 

Thanks once again, it is definitely giving us ideas

Steve
 
N.B. to list owner, I have trimmed what I could from the message, but I need to 
leave the original 
message in case it was not seen by some who may have information for me

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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On 
Behalf Of Damian 
Walsh
Sent: 26 December 2012 09:46
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Planning a trip - suggestions

You could visit Deventer, not too far from Arnhem (one of my colleagues makes a 
daily commute 
Arnhem-Deventer) - lots of 16C/ 17C architecture worth seeing if you are into 
that sort of thing. The 
Gilde Hotel in the centre of town is a converted convent (16C I think - tell 
them about disabilities up 
front because not all floors have a lift) and costs around 80¬ with a corporate 
rate (contact me off-list 
if you don't have a convienient corporation to cite ;)). If your wife can't get 
out and about and you 
have to leave her in the hotel, there is a Red Light district à l'Amsterdam ;)

Finally - apologies to Cloggies on the list - I'm afraid Deventer is like 
nearly everywhere in NL, 
variable (ie poor) cuisine that is hideously expensive. There is though a half 
reasonable Indian 
restaurant to take your mind off croquettes & frikendel

Damian

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Steve Gillen <steve.gil...@ntlworld.com>wrote:

> Hi Guys
>
> I wonder if you can help me?
>
> I am planning a trip for my wife and I around late May next year and I 
> would greatly appreciate any help you well travelled lot can give me.
>
> Please also bear in mind we are both disabled to some extent or other, 
> myself due to arthritis I have to walk with a stick, and sit down a 
> lot - my wife uses a mobility scooter and cannot walk to much extent 
> at all - around a hotel room is pretty much the limit..
>
> We plan to drive to Folkestone stay over and go over to Calais via the 
> Eurotunnel early the following morning - travel southwards a little 
> but heading towards Belgium then stay overnight in France, cross the 
> border and spend 2 nights in separate places in Belgium, then cross 
> into Germany and spend 3/4 nights in Germany, again at different 
> places and then travel towards Holland around the Arnhem area and stay 
> overnight again, then on to Amsterdam and may a couple of nights there 
> followed by an overnight ferry to Hull and then home - aiming for a 
> couple of weeks away (roughly but no
> more)
>
> My questions are....
>
> Suggestions for places to stop and visit in any of these places - I 
> speak French passably, certainly enough to make any requests and order 
> meals etc, so I imaging France and Belgium are no problem, Holland I 
> know they almost all speak very good English so that should be fine, 
> but Germany I am lost about. I speak no German and my only ever visit 
> there was to see us play Stuttgart many years ago (what a second leg 
> that was eh?)
>
> Hotels we hope to sort out along the way, but cheapish places of the 
> chain sort are no problem for us - France abounds with these as does 
> most of the continent so I hope to be OK with accommodation it's just 
> which town/cities places to visit should we go to? What foodstuffs should we 
> look out for?
> (small appetites now, both of us - we are on weight reducing very
> successfully) - we don't drink or smoke so no consideration needed there.
>
> Likes - historical places, battlefield sites (we should find those on 
> the France Belgium border area and at Arnhem) - good food in small 
> quantities, shopping and things to bring back, but just generally to 
> get to see more that just a series of motorways or endless roads. 
> Small towns and villages appeal to us more than cities, but we can go with 
> the flow on that.
>
> Amsterdam, the Van Gough museum should be open again by May, so that 
> is on the list - we are unlikely to partake of special coffee shop 
> "cakes" :-) - maybe the Anne Franks museum if it is accessible - again 
> suggestions are welcome - remember we are old farts (late 50's and 
> early 60's) so late night clubbing is pretty much out!  :-)
>
> Thanks for any info any of you can supply
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve Gillen (and Paula)
>


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