Maybe so, Richard. But I've experienced only what I've experienced. And my experience is awful. Mind you, first past the post gave us Trump. Michael
Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 BLOG: Times Of Israel<http://tinyurl.com/guhlezv> ||Quora<https://michaelbenjamin.quora.com/> ||Jerusalem Post<http://www.jpost.com/Blogger/Michael-Benjamin> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;<https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Benjamin/e/B00ZTT5HUK> myRay: Online CBT<http://www.myray.org/> From: Richard Naef [mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:43 PM To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester That may well be the experience in your country, but it's a special case as the involvement of religious parties is part of the basis for your existence. Modern European democracies are all based on PR and better for it. In the UK the vast majority of people's vote are literally worth nothing. UKIP, greens, lib Dems got over 7 million votes between them and had 10 MPs. Tories got 35% of vote and pretty much complete control. Sent from my Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [LU] : Manchester From: Michael Benjamin To: Matt Anderson ,Richard Naef CC: Leeds List Ridiculous---You can never appreciate ridiculous till you live under proportional representation. It promotes militants loons. In Israel the 10-15% penguins are 'driven by' a third motivated ones. They then hold the balance of power. You do not get diversity you get lunacy. No one looks to represent the middle of the road majority. It is too complex; so you get uni-issue agitators to their own minority and don't give a toss about anyone else. In a two tier system [like Commons and Lords] pay lip service to some proportionality. In first past the post you have one man answering his constituency. With PP you have lists who are responsible to a diffuse electorate. Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE; myRay: Online CBT |-----Original Message----- |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt |Anderson |Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 5:05 PM |To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> |Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> |Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester | |Don't get me started on that. I'm pro PR. | |As a "red Tory" I live in a safe labour seat. I hate what Corbyn is trying to do. But |don't have any voice | |His legacy will be 10 years of unopposed Tory rule at least | |Sent from my iPhone | |> On 24 May 2017, at 14:55, Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> |wrote: |> |> I'm of the opinion if you live in a democratic society and benefit from that, |you've also got to accept responsibility for decisions made by democratically |elected politicians. |> |> Blair went to parliament, who voted by a large majority to back him. That's |how things work in a democracy, flawed tho it may be (esp with our ridiculous |voting system) |> |> ttfn |> |> Richard |> |> -----Original Message----- |> From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net] |> Sent: 24 May 2017 14:03 |> To: Richard Naef <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> |> Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> |> Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester |> |> "War is hell, don't get involved in one if you aren't ready to face the |consequences." |> |> Exactly! However that choice to get into a war was made for us! Political self |interest globally is to blame and our politicians were complicit but not in our |name |> |> Sent from my iPhone |> |>> On 24 May 2017, at 13:47, Richard Naef <richard@triumph- |computers.co.uk<mailto:richard@triumph-%0b|computers.co.uk>> wrote: |>> |>> War is hell, don't get involved in one if you aren't ready to face the |consequences. |> | |_______________________________________________ |Leedslist mailing list |Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist |To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org> | | |MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org MARCHING ON TOGETHER
