That dross was good enough to be top of the league early in the season and still in the play-offs around Xmas. Christiansen was clearly a genius. We have only really lost Ayling, Cooper and Roofe from the early season and 2 of those rarely get a good word from the list. I thought Heckingbottom was a good appointment and I think its fair enough him testing out the likes of Ekuban, Pearce, Sacko, Dallas etc as he needs to decide whether they are worth keeping - but I was expecting a bit more championship nous from him and more organization and fight. This doesn't seem to be happening. I suspect you can get up on in this division with 4 or 5 good players and 6 or 7 solid ones. Remember the likes of O'Kane and Anita have been regular members of promotion teams in the near past. Annoying Warnock seems to be proving with Cardiff the benefit of organization over talent. I think Jansen (agree he has been poor at times) Forshaw, Saiz and a revitalised Vieira could be good players at this level.Ayling, Alioski and Berardi are probably solid enough. Surely De Bock is better than he has looked, stretch out Hernandez for another year and maybe we are only about 2 or 3 players short of a decent team. Shame a striker is one of them - not sure we could justify what Lasogga is likely to cost on his showing so far. Matt
From: {broken-address} John Lee <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> To: nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk>; "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Sent: Monday, 19 March 2018, 10:19 Subject: Re: [LU] have we hit bottom yet? Ha - the situation feels even worse after reading that Nick :-( I was talking to 3 people who went to the game and they simply couldn't comprehend how bad we were, and how we managed to contrive to lose it! One of those said we should have stuck with TC, 3 of us felt not. Can we muster enough points to see this season out - probably. Will Heckingbottom be given the authority to get rid of the dross he's inherited? How long are the contracts of some of the dross - most seem to think they're on 4 year contracts!! In Heckingbottom I thought we had a good young coach, but whether he's up to the complete rebuild that's required at Leeds I don't know? He must by now realise that no matter where you play some of these players, they are out of their depth in the Championship? From: nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Monday, 19 March 2018, 9:29 Subject: [LU] have we hit bottom yet? Saturday was one of the least enjoyable games I have ever endured – probably the coldest I have been on the terraces – 2 dreadful teams; how do professional footballers continually and repeatedly pass to the other team; drop the passes short/massively over-hit them; pass into touch – a bunch of loud mouth grumbling supporters who refuse to get the idea that slagging people off is not going to help them at all: we are called "supporters" FFS - I mean what do you make of it if you are a young lad making your debut in the senior team (a team that is on the worst run in the league) and the crowd are on your back after 20 minutes for a couple of nervously mis-placed passes – we did have enough chances to win the game (Ekuban should have buried that move from the free kick) – and then they score two scabby goals (one in injury time to win it) for the second one what exactly did happen to Pontus and Pennington, both got it wrong, badly wrong, but funny enough only Pennington gets slagged - Pontus is dodgy but he is the senior partner in that pairing. Pennington was trying to cover for what Pontus missed...not saying I'm convinced by Pennington (at all) just that things happen on a pitch as part of a continuum not in isolation. And I am heartily sick of listening to the barely concealed xenophobia aimed at Alioski and Hernandez, who along with Forshaw, at least made an effort at trying to win the game. We have gained nothing from sacking Christensen. But this is what you get with knee-jerk decision making, listening to a baying crowd most of whom have never been good enough to play football at any level. – there were times in the second half when the snow was falling so heavily and being blown around so much that you couldn’t see the other end of the pitch – you couldn’t even raise your eyes to look forward because of the snow being blown in…dismal. dismal. dismal. _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE